Browning Love?

[CoElkHunter]

Cops can cite me for a broken windshield as dangerous equipment (vision impairment) but people can drive around with all manner of distracting obstructing debris dangling from their rear view mirror. I don't get it.

Put your cell phone on the dashboard in a holder and rock out to an AC/DC music video. No distractions there and you’ll fit in with the many other morons I see doing it. LOL

 

[86thecat]

Since the 7mmRM is available maybe Browning should consider chambering for 375Ruger also.

 

[HookMeUpII]

Since the 7mmRM is available maybe Browning should consider chambering for 375Ruger also.

Man this is timely with all the HH vs. Ruger talk going around. Doesn't make sense for them to. If anything, they will start 375HH again. In fact, they recently made a run of about 60 X-Bolts in 375HH for a specific retailer. Brand new, in box.

 

[86thecat]

Man this is timely with all the HH vs. Ruger talk going around. Doesn't make sense for them to. If anything, they will start 375HH again. In fact, they recently made a run of about 60 X-Bolts in 375HH for a specific retailer. Brand new, in box.

If mag box is long enough then H&H makes the most sense, but the Ruger would be same length as 7RM. Just thinking the R would be less cost to manufacture.

 

[HookMeUpII]

If mag box is long enough then H&H makes the most sense, but the Ruger would be same length as 7RM. Just thinking the R would be less cost to manufacture.

Browning already makes the X-bolt in the 300WM, 7RM. I believe, but could be wrong, it works in a standard magnum-length action.

I can check tonight. I'll put a 300WM mag up against the 3375HH.

 

[86thecat]

7RM and 300WM should be max 3.340". The 375H&H should be 3.600 max. Not sure what OAL max in Browning magazime is.
A little rail work and maybe slight magazine widening should allow a 375R or 416R to feed from a 7RM or 300WM magazine. More complicated (expensive) if action needs to be opened up to fit a 3.600 oal cartridge.
Had a 7RM Zastava (commercial Mauser 98, standard length magnum) rebarreled to 375R, and not much was necessary to make it feed. Would have done 375H&H (availability of brass and already had H&H dies) but action needs to be milled open lengthwise which removes metal behind lower bolt locking lug. Ruger was easiest, cheapest and best option.

 

[rookhawk]

Limitless choices for your Browning products!

Sorry, I just had to troll today.

 

[CoElkHunter]

Limitless choices for your Browning products!

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Sorry, I just had to troll today.

Too bad the tp doesn’t have the “Buckmark” logo stamped all over it? I’d buy some as gifts for my fellow Browning rifle owners. LOL I believe Winchester rifles made in Portugal have Browning Arms Company stamped on the barrel? Odd, because I thought the Belgian company FN Herstal owns both Browning and Winchester? Maybe they’re manufactured by Browning in Portugal? I can’t keep up with all of the bankruptcy sales/mergers of firearm and ammo companies.

 

[ClarkC]

I do agree with rookhawks point on browning being a brand wh* re. They sell their name to whoever pays to put on crap junk from China that has nothing to do with shooting sports.

Interesting topic. Never shot a Browning rifle but they have always intrigued me, especially with plenty of left-hand offerings.

I do have to wonder, do we have similar dislike for Winchester? Long before Browning did it, Winchester was slapping their logo onto everything. We can probably discount every pre-64 model 70 as pure rubbish since the maker so willingly slapped their logo on anything. Or is there more nuance to this?

 

[CoElkHunter]

Interesting topic. Never shot a Browning rifle but they have always intrigued me, especially with plenty of left-hand offerings.

I do have to wonder, do we have similar dislike for Winchester? Long before Browning did it, Winchester was slapping their logo onto everything. We can probably discount every pre-64 model 70 as pure rubbish since the maker so willingly slapped their logo on anything. Or is there more nuance to this?

I don’t know about pre-64s, but a number of years ago, I bought an inexpensive Winchester spotting scope (probably a Bushnell) which was fine for range work at 100yds. It was very clear and I’d still have it but some bastard stole it.

 

[rookhawk]

Interesting topic. Never shot a Browning rifle but they have always intrigued me, especially with plenty of left-hand offerings.

I do have to wonder, do we have similar dislike for Winchester? Long before Browning did it, Winchester was slapping their logo onto everything. We can probably discount every pre-64 model 70 as pure rubbish since the maker so willingly slapped their logo on anything. Or is there more nuance to this?

Every “post-64” would be what you meant I suppose, not pre-64.

If the shoe fits I suppose.

 

[ClarkC]

Every “post-64” would be what you meant I suppose, not pre-64.

If the shoe fits I suppose.

No, pre-64. Winchester was marketing their name on all sorts of non-firearm items well before 1964. According to your logic with Browning, once a company starts doing that, all of their firearms are worthless. Just curious if Winchester adds up the same or if this is your inherent bias against Browning?

 

[MS 9x56]

Interesting topic. Never shot a Browning rifle but they have always intrigued me, especially with plenty of left-hand offerings.

I do have to wonder, do we have similar dislike for Winchester? Long before Browning did it, Winchester was slapping their logo onto everything. We can probably discount every pre-64 model 70 as pure rubbish since the maker so willingly slapped their logo on anything. Or is there more nuance to this?

Much more nuance but your right they both sell their name to whoever will pay for it.

 

[MS 9x56]

If mag box is long enough then H&H makes the most sense, but the Ruger would be same length as 7RM. Just thinking the R would be less cost to manufacture.

Really the only difference is the 375 H&H has a 100 year head start and a bullet proof reputation.

 

[rookhawk]

No, pre-64. Winchester was marketing their name on all sorts of non-firearm items well before 1964. According to your logic with Browning, once a company starts doing that, all of their firearms are worthless. Just curious if Winchester adds up the same or if this is your inherent bias against Browning?

The big difference is that at least there was a Winchester factory making rifles in their own name pre-1964. There has never been a Browning factory, it’s just a gun factory that won a contract slapping a logo on a gun. Machine goes brrr in Liege, one says FN, the next unit says Browning. Machine goes brr in Japan, one says Miroku next unit says Browning.

Just my take on it, but I’m not a Browning owner and while I’ve owned my share of pre-64s, I’m not really a Winchester collector. Overall, the quality of a pre64 70 or 21 is superior to a BSS or a safari grade in my opinion.

 

[Wyatt Smith]

I believe Winchester made their own guns till the early 2000s.

 

[John the Electrician]

I have an A5, which I believe was made in 1939. I shoot this gun better than any of the many others I own.

This Browning, I am a fan of.

John

 

[CoElkHunter]

Definitely not the case with the new X-bolts. The action is like a modern day Lee Enfield .303 if you've ever cycled one of them. Butter smooth. Zero effort to run through the cocking mechanism.

I'm not a Browning fan-boy either. They just make a lot of sensible rifles in their platform right now. They are not as expensive as a Christiansen. Have a better range of options than Winchester (owned by Browning). More caliber offerings than Ruger.

My X-Bolt Speed LR was listed at $1,499. Bass Bro had an end of year sale where it was marked down to $1,299. Then there was another $100 rebate. Pre-tax cost was $1,199 on a $1,499 rifle.

The X-Bolt Medallion 375HH special production I just ordered was $1,199. Browning is running a 10% rebate. $1,199 rifle for $1,080.

They also treat their dealers very well and offer a great customer service.

If they ever come back with a mainstream bigger bore offering, like a 375HH, I think they will get even more traction amongst Africa-focused communities like this. Browning listens to their customers and dealers as well. The dealer I ordered my 375HH from asked them to make it and they sent 60 special order for them.

I couldn’t resist the temptation any longer. Reed’s lowered the price of the Browning X Bolt Medallion .375 H&H to $999 from $1199. I missed the Browning rebate time cutoff of April 14th and wasn’t going to buy one until I looked at their website yesterday. I think they only have a handful left?

 

[NoNo94]

If you are looking at the XBolt 2s, the only model I’ve seen in stock is the speed. I placed an order for the XBolt 2 LR model In April of 2024, and they still haven’t hit the market yet…

 

[CoElkHunter]

If you are looking at the XBolt 2s, the only model I’ve seen in stock is the speed. I placed an order for the XBolt 2 LR model In April of 2024, and they still haven’t hit the market yet…

The X bolt 2 Hunter models w/ walnut or maple stocks are out now. Lots of them for sale everywhere but sadly not in .338 WINCHESTER MAGNUM or .375 HOLLAND and HOLLAND.