Booked a Lioness bow hunt

[kal]

Thanks everyone, I am going to take this information and field a few questions to the owner and PH I have been dealing with. With any luck they will be able to straighten up any confusion I have caused to myself :bonk:

 

[KWALATA SAFARIS]

Attached copies from the regulations .

æ–—isted large predator means a specimen of any of the following listed threatened or
protected species:
(a) Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus);
(b) Spotted hyaena (Crocuta crocuta);
(c) Brown hyaena (Parahyaena brunnea);
(d) Wild dog (Lycaon pictus);
(e) Lion (Panthera leo); or
(f) Leopard (Panthera pardus);

Prohibited methods of hunting
26. (1) An issuing authority considering an application for the hunting of a listed
threatened or protected species may not authorise the following methods of hunting, unless it
is for the management of damage causing animals in accordance with regulation 14:
(a) Listed threatened or protected species, may not be hunted by means of
(i) poison;
(ii) traps, except as provided for in subregulation (2);
(iii) snares;
(iv) dogs, except as provided for in subregulation (3);
(v) darting, except as provided for in subregulation (4);
(vi) a weapon which, after it has been discharged, automatically reloads and fires
when the trigger thereof is pulled or held in a discharged position;
(vii) a weapon discharging a rim firing cartridge of .22 of an inch or smaller calibre;
(viii) shotguns, except for the hunting of birds; and
(ix) airguns;
(b) listed threatened or protected species may not be hunted by luring it, by means of
(i) bait, except in the case of -
(aa) lions, leopards and hyena, where dead bait may be used;
(bb) listed threatened or protected marine and other aquatic species; and
(aa) invertebrates to be collected for scientific purposes;
(ii) sounds;
(iii) smell; or
Formatted: Bullets and Numbering
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(iv) any other induced luring method;
(c) except as provided for in subregulation (4), (5), (6) or (7) the animal may not be hunted
by using
(i) flood or spotlights;
(ii) motorised vehicles; or
(iii) aircraft; and
(d) the animal may not be hunted if it is
(i) under the influence of any tranquillising, narcotic, immobilising or similar
agent; or
(ii) trapped against a fence or in a small enclosure where the animal does not have
a fair chance of evading the hunter.
(2) Subregulation (1)(a)(ii) does not prevent the use of traps for the purpose of -
(a) the hunting and / or catching of listed threatened or protected marine and other aquatic
species;
(b) collecting invertebrates for scientific purposes; and
(c) trapping listed threatened or protected terrestrial vertebrate species for scientific,
veterinary or management purposes.
(3) Subregulation (1)(a)(iv) does not prevent the use of dogs for the purpose of
(a) tracking a wounded animal; or
(b) flushing, pointing and retrieving listed threatened or protected species.
(4) Subregulation (1)(a)(v) and (c) does not prevent the darting of an animal by a
veterinarian or a person authorised by a veterinarian in writing and in possession of a valid
permit, whether on foot or from a motorised vehicle or aircraft, to immobilise or tranquillise
the animal for the purpose of
(a) carrying out a disease control procedure or a scientific experiment or for management
purposes;
(b) veterinary treatment of the animal; or
(c) translocating or transporting the animal.
(5) Notwithstanding subregulation (1)(c)
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(a) an aircraft may be used for -
(i) tracking an animal in an area where the hunt takes place over long ranges;
(ii) culling; and
(b) a motorised vehicle may be used for
(i) tracking an animal in an area where the hunt takes place over long ranges;
(ii) culling;
(iii) allowing a physically disabled or elderly person to hunt.
(6) Subregulation (1)(a) and (b) does not prevent the use of the hunting methods or
luring methods described in these subregulations for the purpose of controlling damage
causing animals in accordance with regulation 14.
(7) Subregulation (1)(c) does not prevent the use of flood or spotlights for the
purpose of
(a) controlling damage causing individuals;
(b) culling of listed threatened or protected species; or
(c) hunting of leopards and hyenas.

(8) An issuing authority may not issue a permit to hunt a listed large predator,
Ceratotherium simum (white rhinoceros), Crocodylus niloticus (Nile crocodile), Diceros
bicornis (black rhinoceros) or Loxodonta africana (African elephant) by means of or by the
use of a bow and arrow.
This is the regulations. There is no chance they will issue a DCA for lion in South Africa.

North West nature conservation do issue Lion Bow permits.

Very true Richard, I do believe the hippo is supposed to be the DCA and the lion a trophy lioness hunt, I think I have described my problem with PAC/DCA,

Richard sometimes I wish it was a simpler industry, I must be honest........

My best always.

 

[SafariA]

North West nature conservation do issue Lion Bow permits, on Leopard I wish anyone luck in Limpopo with a bow as they will not be issued with such a permit.

My best always.

Jaco thanks for the clarity and this should answers some of Kal's questions . If you read PAR 8 of my quote is states that an Issuing Authority may not issue a permit for bow. So if they do they do not follow or understand their own regulations l It might be because of the Lion Owners fight with Government . I am sure no other Province will issue tis though .

Happy Hunting !!

 

[KWALATA SAFARIS]

After the well known court battle Lion was removed from the large predator list as above, it still has TOPS relevance as far as the transport permit of such a lion is concerned as well as a hunting permits,

For a bow hunter to be issued such a permit on Lion proof needs to be delivered to Nature conservation as far as a level of cometancy is concerned (as CV of prior experience if you will), it is sent in as an application, once issued this permit also states that the wweapon to be used will be Bow and arrow.

My very best always.

 

[Fritz Rabe]

That is 100% correct.
The North West and Free State issue Lion permits for a bow. If your are lucky then Mpumalanga will sometimes grant a permit.
Lion is definately removed from the list of animals that can not be hunted with a bow as I have done 4 Lion hunts last year with Nature Confusion observers present during the hunt.
The DCA Hippo is a definite NO!
Cheers.

 

[vgruan]

Good day guys,

I only jump in on the end here as I have been out hunting. Just to clarify for Kal as well. You will not have any problems getting your permit to hunt your lioness with bow. We have done several this year without any permit problems at all. I must say it is one of the most exciting hunts any hunter can ever do in my opinion. You will have to track and push the lion until you get in range for a shot and sometimes (most of the time) the cats does not appreciate people being on their @sses for 3 to 4 hours..... I do have a video clip of hunt earlier this year, if I manage to find it I will post it to this thread for you so we can get the blood pumping already!

If you have any questions regarding the hunt it self please do not hesitate to ask I will be more than happy to help out where I can! Oh and before I forget please do not use mechanical s they do not work on dangerous game at all!

Best regards,

Jacques