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Kevin, have you tried dry fire? How is the trigger on new Beretta?
I didn't Mark, but will be going back and will do so. It uses the swinging hammer as you know. The straight pull felt as smooth as butter and the click lock was very positive. For it's price point, ie a third of the R8 in this shop it was quite impressive.
My daughter was along, she didn't like the looks of it or the R8 and said "it isn't a Rigby Highland Stalker dad". That pretty much summed it up, I didn't know she had the sniff.
 
Agree. Or even better, get to shoot them all side by side!!
That's risky business there. Too much money at stake. Can't have the cheapest one winning. It would kill the other brands.

A lot of talk about the Savage and go/no go gauges and barrel swaps. You're all aware that this is a different barrel design right? Ball detent lockup and such. I fished this out with Shaw and the Savage Custom Shop and there's no aftermarket support forthcoming on this until at least six months down the road. No easy .458 WM option as of yet as far as I'm aware. Unless I've missed something which is entirely possible.

That said I'm inclined to see what this R8 is about and take a trip to Cove Creek. As far as ownership I'd have to be smart about it and just buy a magnum caliber bolthead from the outset and pray for a threaded .375 barrel from PHZ with sights. The devil is in the accessories.
 
A lot of talk about the Savage and go/no go gauges and barrel swaps. You're all aware that this is a different barrel design right? Ball detent lockup and such. I fished this out with Shaw and the Savage Custom Shop and there's no aftermarket support forthcoming on this until at least six months down the road. No easy .458 WM option as of yet as far as I'm aware. Unless I've missed something which is entirely possible.
With it just being released and hitting shops, 6 months is only a drop in the bucket compared with wait times in this industry. Savage pre fit barrels have become an industry all their own. They built this rifle to benefit from those features as the 10/110 series, so I'm sure they'll come soon enough.
 
With it just being released and hitting shops, 6 months is only a drop in the bucket compared with wait times in this industry. Savage pre fit barrels have become an industry all their own. They built this rifle to benefit from those features as the 10/110 series, so I'm sure they'll come soon enough.
Tech shop at Shaw says there is no intention of tooling up for it.

I'm hoping they go bonkers and do a .338 Lapua action and then we can get custom barrels in longer magnums.
 
Tech shop at Shaw says there is no intention of tooling up for it.
I work for the largest sporting goods distributor in NA and sell a lot of Savage, heard direct from them their will be accessory product support in barrels caliber swaps and its in the works. Actually why I waited to place my order until I heard from them.
 
I work for the largest sporting goods distributor in NA and sell a lot of Savage, heard direct from them their will be accessory product support in barrels caliber swaps and its in the works. Actually why I waited to place my order until I heard from them.
Okay I'm glad you heard that. It's different than what the man told me on the phone, but I like your answer better so I hope it's true.

You don't happen to know if the action is long enough for .375 H&H?
 
Okay I'm glad you heard that. It's different than what the man told me on the phone, but I like your answer better so I hope it's true.

You don't happen to know if the action is long enough for .375 H&H?
Different levels of the company. Unfortunately, even at the consumer facing the employees may not even read their own marketing collateral. Savage touted this adaptability from the start, but with any new product release in the last 12 months (or longer for some manufacturers) they were and are delayed. You see much more Hog Hunter Impulses than Predator or Big Game, and really the more popular calibers right now. It's just takes time. First rifles out, then focus on the aftermarket components.

As for action length, the long action Impulse will I believe be too short for the h&h, but should handle the 375 Ruger which Savage had been chambering much more in.

I myself am looking to fill a fast repeater and have a short action on order. If I like it, and those secondly components are out, a LA may be picked up. Need to play with it (once received) to see if I even like it.
 
Different levels of the company. Unfortunately, even at the consumer facing the employees may not even read their own marketing collateral. Savage touted this adaptability from the start, but with any new product release in the last 12 months (or longer for some manufacturers) they were and are delayed. You see much more Hog Hunter Impulses than Predator or Big Game, and really the more popular calibers right now. It's just takes time. First rifles out, then focus on the aftermarket components.

As for action length, the long action Impulse will I believe be too short for the h&h, but should handle the 375 Ruger which Savage had been chambering much more in.

I myself am looking to fill a fast repeater and have a short action on order. If I like it, and those secondly components are out, a LA may be picked up. Need to play with it (once received) to see if I even like it.
Do report back. The 300 wm interests me.
 
@mark-hunter, did you happen to notice this picture of the scope mounted on the barrel? I don't like how the scope mount is cantilevered over the action. I will admit that Beretta did a good job on the rifle, but the scope mount seems like an afterthought.
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In addition to my last post...

The reason the scope rail is cantilevered on the Beretta BRX1 and the Blaser R8 is not, is because the Blaser has the magazine on top of the trigger group...Beretta doesn't. This moves the Beretta barrel forward about 3.5-4" along with the picatinny rail.

Blaser even took it one step further by offering a direct transition piece between the barrel and the scope...the Blaser scope mount. For the Beretta you need to attach a rail AND add scope rings. In a world that is looking for things to fail, less hardware means less opportunity for something to work loose.

IMO - The new Beretta highlights how well thought out the Blaser R8 design is. Squeezing together the trigger group and magazine. Mounting the scope directly on the barrel. And caliber selection from 22lr to 500J on the same stock. Engineering done right is a beautiful thing.
 
@mark-hunter, did you happen to notice this picture of the scope mounted on the barrel? I don't like how the scope mount is cantilevered over the action. I will admit that Beretta did a good job on the rifle, but the scope mount seems like an afterthought.
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What I noticed in the picture is the raised rib on the bolt body. Is that somehow interacting with the scope base? That's not a recipe for repeatable accuracy if that's the case. Debris gets in there and starts deflecting the base...
 
@BeeMaa

The reason behind this design to my understanding is for one reason position of magazine in front of trigger group, in a classic manner, and when gap appeared they needed to close with something over their open top design.
The other design would be closed bridge over the bolt.

Instead of inventing their own proprietary mounting system (like blaser, for example), they took standard piccatiny rail.

I suppose this is beacuse Piccatiny rail will always be economic option, and with their MRSP, it is obvious they are targeting blue collar market. So piccatiny rail it is.

I will attach photos below (from internet) of blaser r8 with open bolt, and Merkel helix, with closed bridge over the action, for quick reference of systems and comparison.

Blaser elegantly solved the issue of open top by shortening the length of action by positioning the magazine on top of trigger, and adding their own mount system, whilst in the same time keeping open top, with open bolt, and price adjusted for high end market.
Merkel Helix, has closed bridge over the action, and integrated piccatiny on top of action, making an elegant solution for mount system.
Beretta in this case made a compromise. (there is really nothing new under the sun)

(a friend of mine, hunter, who is technological freak - for which I thought blaser r8 is perfect choice of modern rifle, when deciding for his straight pull rifle when budget was not an issue for him, between merkel helix, and blaser r8, has chosen merkel helix only for the reason of integrated piccatiny mount)
My own view is that Beretta would make a better design, if choosing a closed bridge over the action, similar to merkel helix with feeding based only by removable magazine.

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merkel helix 3.jpg
 
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So has anyone gotten to fire a savage impulse?
I got to handle one in a local gun store and it was very tight. Quite a bit more force needed to operate than I had envisioned. It appears to have the lock up occuring in an extension and the barrel screwing in ahead of the bolt face. Good news for caliber swaps.
 
anyone notice savage is producing handguns now…
 
I believe that savage produced handguns in the past also
 

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