Blast

I dodon'have a subscription to NY Times. Can you give us the gist of it?
 
New York Times. I wouldn't expect anything else from that far left rag.
 
Indoor shooting contributes to blast exposure more than outdoor. Blast exposure to the head is harmful and may be cumulative.

The larger the caliber, the closer the muzzle to the shooter’s head, the greater the exposure.

There is a time/rep component to hitting possibly harmful thresholds. More shots faster equals more possible damage.

Hear all the maybes? That’s because there is no real science-based standard. Uncle is working on it.

Muzzle devices that mitigate blast seem to help.

Work in progress.

I’ve been shooting 375 and 470 indoors. And 9, 45, 22, 223, 257, 30-06, 300

Thinking I oughta take the big stuff outside.

Valuable information, and well-executed journalism.
 
Just stand on the line at an indoor range and you can feel the increased concussion when someone else fires.

Not sure that politics or Left Vs Right reporting plays a role in this one. Even simple me with my old hard head can feel the significantly increased concussion at an indoor range.
 
Indoor shooting contributes to blast exposure more than outdoor. Blast exposure to the head is harmful and may be cumulative.

The larger the caliber, the closer the muzzle to the shooter’s head, the greater the exposure.

There is a time/rep component to hitting possibly harmful thresholds. More shots faster equals more possible damage.

Hear all the maybes? That’s because there is no real science-based standard. Uncle is working on it.

Muzzle devices that mitigate blast seem to help.

Work in progress.

I’ve been shooting 375 and 470 indoors. And 9, 45, 22, 223, 257, 30-06, 300

Thinking I oughta take the big stuff outside.

Valuable information, and well-executed journalism.
Wonder how that works with a civil war cannons?
Been around a few during reinactments and some just shooting.
You can fell the shot.
 
As a retired artilleryman, I can't seem to obsess over "blast" effect in an indoor range.
 
I have a good nose:

Not a whiff of politics or bias.

Straight reportage, thoroughly executed.
All reporting is biased as are all reporters. The word agenda comes to mind with this tripe. How about "proof that indoor ranges are bad, let's get the government to close them". 79 trips around the sun, I have a nose also.
 
All reporting is biased as are all reporters. The word agenda comes to mind with this tripe. How about "proof that indoor ranges are bad, let's get the government to close them". 79 trips around the sun, I have a nose also.
Have you been concussed one to many times at an indoor range?

Just kidding no need to retaliate... ;-0)
 
Have you been concussed one to many times at an indoor range?

Just kidding no need to retaliate... ;-0)
A few years ago on a crap weather winter day, my next door neighbor invited me to accompany him to an indoor range he frequents. In over sixty five years of shooting big and small stuff, never been to one.
After about fifteen minutes I was ready to go. For me, the, noise and "blast" was not something I associated with the enjoyment of shooting nor was the distance to the target.
These pussified articles about the dangers of everything from sitting on the couch watching tv to offshore fishing in small boats, to flying personal aircraft, I get the feeling we are fast morphing in to a nation of pusillanimous, risk averse males. It's just plain sad.
We now return you to our regular programming.
 
A few years ago on a crap weather winter day, my next door neighbor invited me to accompany him to an indoor range he frequents. In over sixty five years of shooting big and small stuff, never been to one.
After about fifteen minutes I was ready to go. For me, the, noise and "blast" was not something I associated with the enjoyment of shooting nor was the distance to the target.
These pussified articles about the dangers of everything from sitting on the couch watching tv to offshore fishing in small boats, to flying personal aircraft, I get the feeling we are fast morphing in to a nation of pusillanimous, risk averse males. It's just plain sad.
We now return you to our regular programming.
As much as I enjoy shooting 9mm & 45 acp at close range (that my local outdoor range doesn't offer), I cant do the indoor range thing for the reasons you mention.

A headache for 2 days after shooting for me is not fun.

NOW, since we're giving trophies out for everything these days, I believe that I earned one for surviving an indoor range on not one but two separate occasions!
 
I don’t like the NYT but I do believe shooting indoors has more impact than outdoors. I’ve done it a few times and anything more than about a .38 special is miserable. Much less if the guy next to you is hammering away with some AR with a muzzle brake. I just won’t go back.
 
This doesn’t shock me one bit, also one of the reasons I hate muzzle breaks and try to always shoot on an end always using a can when I’m indoors
 
Here's some information on atmospheric overpressure which I provided 23 May 2025,


"I may not be a scientist but I've assisted many on development projects...

Muzzle Blast compresses the air or atmosphere around us causing atmospheric overpressure. For a brief amount or time, this is much like the water pressure undersea. Now let’s put this into even simpler terms.

Most people have experienced a far too loud stereo with its bass tones set to maximum. We feel every bump and thump enough to give us headaches. Why, because the stereo speakers compressed the air which in turn decompressed in our direction. Thump, thump, thump against our heads.

What we feel is not only the sound in our ears, which also is caused by atmospheric overpressure, the overpressure affects our entire bodies. But perhaps most or all, our brains that float in fluid. “Inside the skull, the brain floats in a jelly-like substance called cerebrospinal fluid (CSF). CSF protects, nourishes, and cleans the brain.” https://www.brainfacts.org/diseases...e-watered-down-brain-and-hydrocephalus-102620

A fast push of over pressured air against the human body can cause a brain to move within the fluid. With enough of an atmospheric push, a brain could bounce of the inside of its skull. This occurs with an underbody blast when a vehicle hits a mine. Shrapnel rips the bottom of the vehicle apart and pushes the vehicle upward. Faster than the physical force moving upward is the supersonic shock wave of the high explosive of the mine. That shock wave, yes really high and fast moving overpressure, goes through our bodies. Similarily, one "feels" artillery.

Now let’s consider the think about the atmospheric over pressure from muzzle blast or our big bore rifles. Sound which is overpressure, is measured in decibels. Most rifles produce around 165 decibels, https://proears.com/loudest-guns/ Sound intensity doubles every 3 db because decibels since the increase is logarithmic rather than linear. https://audiochamps.com/is-3db-or-6db-twice-as-loud/

Decibles are a measure in amplitude. What most are unaware of is that sound also has duration. How long a sound or atmospheric overpressure last also affects humans. I don’t have a reference but from the research range, the total effects of overpressure of a weapon increase with the square of the bore. The bigger the bore, the more overpressure. If a .30 produces a level or 9, a .40 produces a level of 16, and a .50 produces a level of 25. These numbers are a sophisticated wild ass guess (SWAG), but hopefully you understand.

US Soldiers are only allowed in training to shoot a maximum of three rockets or missiels per day, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoulder-fired_missile , Mk 153 SMAW, Javelin, Carl Gustaf 8.4 cm recoilless rifle. Those have really large bores and high decibles blasts producing massive over pressure for a substantial to the brain amount of time. Three hits (over pressures) to the brains and humans need a rest.

For large sporting arms and their shooters, every person is a little different in their tolerance. I have found I can shoot a couple dozen shots with my .458 Win. Somedays I’ve shot near 50 times with combined .375, .416, and .458 Win. But when I shoot my .450 Rigby, ten rounds and I have a small headache.

Overall,
  • Gun fit is very important to perceived recoil.
  • Better shooting form will reduce stress and pain on the body.
  • A heavier rifle recoils less than a lighter rifle if all else is the same.
  • Longer barrels will reduce felt muzzle blast (over pressure) somewhat.
  • Larger bores produce longer duration overpressure.
  • Muzzle breaks are obnoxious. They release pressure laterally from the bore and closer to the shooter.
  • And each and every person is a little different. Shoot the more powerful rifle you can shoot accurately and that doesn’t punish the body each and every shot!"
 
Personally I never shoot anything above 22 caliber indoors. But then I live in the country so have no need to shoot indoors. Just seems like common sense that the concussion from shooting larger bores inside confined spaces could cause issues. But as my grandmother used to say”there is nothing common about sense.”
 
Not everything has to be about politics dude
Get a subscription. In the NYT, it most definitely is political. Journalistic ethics to their editors is an oxymoron. Check their bias ratings. They'll take some insignificant piece of information and twist it to the left. Read the article, it may sound scientific but the agenda is more government regulation. My two cents, if you want to hammer your brain in an indoor range, go ahead. I don't need some NYT do gooders to tell me something already known and what, when and where to shoot. We have too much of that now.

 
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More fodder: When it comes to guns, the NYT doesn't even shed the sheep's clothing. Never take anything they print on guns as good. Their proven agenda more regulation.


number of anti-gun articles in the New York Times


re: Perplexity.

The exact number of anti-gun articles in the New York Times over the last year is not directly stated in available sources. However, it is well-documented that the New York Times has consistently supported strict gun control in its coverage and editorial stance, publishing numerous articles highlighting gun violence, critiques of gun rights, and calls for stronger regulations. The Times published detailed analyses and mapping of gun homicides, coverage of legislative efforts on gun safety laws, and opinion pieces largely favoring gun control measures.

While the total count is unavailable, the volume of reporting and editorial content reflects a strong focus on gun control advocacy rather than a balanced or pro-gun rights perspective. Coverage includes critical views on gun ownership's costs and the societal impact of guns, consistent with an anti-gun control editorial line. This context indicates a substantial number of articles leaning anti-gun in various sections, especially in news reports on gun violence and in opinion/editorial pieces.
 
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