Alaskan hunting laws

[375 Ruger Fan]

I would love to be "invited" on an Alaskan hunt from a live-aboard motor yacht!

You saw what Red Leg posted, you're just under incomed!

I have a good friend that has done such a hunt for black bear and raved about Glacier Guides in SE Alaska. http://www.glacierguidesinc.com/

A black bear hunt price is $9k, much lower than than the $28k for a brownie.

 

[Say Man]

I have a good friend that has done such a hunt for black bear and raved about Glacier Guides in SE Alaska. http://www.glacierguidesinc.com/

A black bear hunt price is $9k, much lower than than the $28k for a brownie.

I have some friends here in Fairbanks that make the trek to Kodiak and hunt off of a yacht for blacktail deer every year. They have a great time. Been to Kodiak a few times myself, once for work and the other was chasing brown bear. That brown bear hunt was expensive even for a resident with the airfare to Kodiak and then the flights in and out of the hunting area and all the other associated costs of hunting on an island.

 

[Velo Dog]

I would love to be "invited" on an Alaskan hunt from a live-aboard motor yacht!

You saw what Red Leg posted, you're just under incomed!

You and Red Leg are party poopers.

 

[Velo Dog]

If I were you, I'd probably hunt 2-3 times a year at Khomas. They have some nice pics of trophies. And a pretty nice camp what I've seen. If you want a yacht, I know a guy that has one for cheap... used. I doubt I could get an outfitter to sell me a used Lord Derby Eland though.

Hmmmm, Khomas sounds familiar to me ....... I think I may have heard of them somewhere before.

 

[Mekaniks]

http://www.onlyinyourstate.com/alaska/bear-police-chase-footage-ak/

 

[geoff rath]

That's it! I'm movin' to Alaska!!!

 

[Mekaniks]

 

[Dragan N.]

part of the reason we have brown bears, and california doesn't, is that they are managed. same with actually hunting grizzly in western states.

first, the government gets involved in everything! it sucks, but thats just the deal. like when they say only natives can hunt seals, walrus, (marine mammals) etc. government rules, not mine.

one can always go to siberia/russia and hunt their brown bears, i wonder what it costs to hunt russian brown bears? i bet its a lot and the hunting is not as good.

wish i could hunt argali sheep, but, need $30,ooo plus to play that game. why? they work cheap, it shouldn't cost that much to hunt them, they are probably overcharging for them!!!!

i wonder what it costs to hunt a snow sheep/ram in russia? a lot i bet, are they over charging? Elephants? rhino? the truth is, cape buffalo and south african lions are a pretty good deal for dangerous game. one outfitter on this site was having a screaming deal on lion hunting. way cheaper than brown bear, why? likely because of the Cecil thing and the canned lion controversy prices on lions have come down a lot.

when i started guiding in 2001 brown bears were around 15-18000, sheep around 10K. everything costs more, and i suspect that everyone makes more money now than they did in 2001, by a fairly similar margin.

Hmm presently id say Russia is probably the best destination for brown bear (by best I mean hunt quality and cost). Hunts for Kamchatka brown bear are I think between 10,000-15,000 (on the lower end of price are typically those hunts offered by Russian owned outfitters while the more expensive ones tend to be owned by Westerners- Americans and in some cases western Europeans). Those bears are virtually identical to Kodiaks/coastal Alaskan brownies in size and appearance.
Kamchatka bear hunts are also the most expensive. Hunts for east Siberian and European brown bears are quite a bit cheaper- you can easily find them for under 10K. These bears are comparable inside to most inland north American brownies or grizzlies. In some cases you get a chance at a second bear too an opportunity that doesn't really exist anywhere in North America.

If you go with a reputable and good outfitter I don't think the difference in hunt quality between say Alaska and Russia would be all that different. Now, the main thing to be wary of in Russia are shoddy or unethical outfitters. The game laws and regs seem to be less strongly enforced there than in North America. Also the guiding industry seems to be less weakly regulated on the whole. While crappy outfitters certainly exist in both places, given Alaska's more stringent requirements the likelihood of running into one that is yahoo or scammer is much lower. So doing your homeworker on the outfitter you want to hunt with in Russia is really important but if you do it you can get some pretty big savings without necessarily seeing a decrease in quality.

 

[1dirthawker]

dragan,

after a fairly short internet search, you seem to be correct, brown bear hunting is waaaay less money in russia. a great opportunity for a hunter that wants to travel a bit and save some money. so, a guy does NOT have to do without, just go to russia.

i am heading out tomorrow to do some guiding for brown bears out on the alaska peninsula, should be fun.

 

[johnnyblues]

I ve hunted Alaska 5 times, wouldn't dream of a DYI hunt.

 

[jeff]

I've hunted Alaska twice DIY and both times were great adventures!

 

[leslie hetrick]

I just went to Africa, and cheaper on the 5 hunts I went on. on my first trip i went with a friend who is married to a south African and made many friends and was invited back and went. I,m going back next year again.

 

[Hank2211]

I see nothing wrong or underhanded in making sure that residents of a state, or province, or country, have an economic stake in the use of the area's wildlife. The requirement to hire a guide is part of that.

We tend to agree with the "if it pays, it stays" position in Africa, but then we tend to want complete freedom to do what we want in our own countries.

Well, the facts are that if local people anywhere have no economic interest in the local wildlife, there is a far greater chance of hunting being shut down. The more that local people are involved in the hunting industry in every way possible, the better off we are as hunters.

 

[jeff]

That's a little bit like you shouldn't be able to work on your own car because many locals have a economic interest in car repair. The license, tag fees and taxes support wildlife in the US. Wildlife in the US isn't owned by the land owner. Where would this stop , would you need a guide for every species as a guide could profit on even birds or small game if you were not allowed to hunt on your own. As a US resident I don't think I should be penalized for hunting federal land. Private land is a different matter.

 

[Hank2211]

That's a little bit like you shouldn't be able to work on your own car because many locals have a economic interest in car repair. The license, tag fees and taxes support wildlife in the US. Wildlife in the US isn't owned by the land owner. Where would this stop , would you need a guide for every species as a guide could profit on even birds or small game if you were not allowed to hunt on your own. As a US resident I don't think I should be penalized for hunting federal land. Private land is a different matter.

Sorry. I don’t agree at all. Your car is your property and you can do whatever you want with it. The land and the game on it are not yours, anymore than the White House is yours. You accept that governments can make all sorts of rules about hunting - seasons, species, genders, weapons, etc., but you draw the line here?

This is about public support for hunting. Without it we may quickly find we have no sport. The public doesn’t much care what you do with your car.

 

[jeff]

The privatization of wildlife to benefit outfitters will not get people behind hunting. I also believe that the game belongs to the citizens of the United States, that was the premise of the north american wildlife model.

 

[ack]

I just went to Africa, and cheaper on the 5 hunts I went on. on my first trip i went with a friend who is married to a south African and made many friends and was invited back and went. I,m going back next year again.

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Mind telling where you went and the outfit ? Thanks

 

[ack]

I've hunted Alaska twice DIY and both times were great adventures!

Did 6 unguided and it was a real adventure..You do need some common sense and outdoor self xperience.

 

[leslie hetrick]

I went on mostly private ranchs in SA and botswana with friends I made, we self catered most times(cooked,made our own beds and took care of our private needs) and used rifles and equipment there and did not shoot the biggest animals to keep cost down. for me having a very good friend married to a south African was the BIGGEST HELP as that was my transport and places to stay between hunts. I think their is a magazine with private farms that take hunters in SA.

 

[Hank2211]

The privatization of wildlife to benefit outfitters will not get people behind hunting. I also believe that the game belongs to the citizens of the United States, that was the premise of the north american wildlife model.

Well, at least we agree that there's a difference between your car and game (unless you've recently donated your car).

Yes, the game belongs to everyone. Which is exactly why there are rules imposed from above on it's use. Tragedy of the commons otherwise.

Maybe an analogy will help. Many western US states have a high percentage of land which is "owned" by the federal government. In other words, by the citizens of the United States. Yet when that land is managed without any concern for the people on it, around it, or in the state, the result is almost always trouble. If you substitute wild game for wild land, the result is the same.

Last from me on this subject, so if you want the last word, over to you!