9.3x62

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

35 whelen is awesome as well pretty much anything you would shoot with a 9.3x62 can be shot with a 35 whelen the only real advantage the 9.3 has over its is the ability to shoot over 300 grain bullets for dangerous game but most people would just buy a 375 H&H at that point!

@AfricanSniper915
There's no flies snd a 310gn Woodleigh in the Whelen at 2,455fps.
Bob

 

[AfricanSniper915]

@AfricanSniper915
There's no flies snd a 310gn Woodleigh in the Whelen at 2,455fps.
Bob
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That’s insane I’ve never seen a 35 whelen shooting that heavy of a bullet and at that fps that’s great performance!! Love to learn new things!

 

[R eight]

What grain Oryx are you using in your 30-06 I’m picking up a rigby highland stalker tomorrow in 30-06 what size groups are you getting?

I run 180 grain loads in her. I have tried Federal premium factory 180 grain partitions….shot well. Sako 180 & 150 grain loads…shot well. And the Norma 180 grain stuff. Shoots well….. group size ???? Probably near enough to MOA with all that ammunition. The scope I run on her is a 4x S&B. With the iron sights , 65 yard sight, and the 180 grain Norma’s she is close to spot on at 100 yards and near enough at 50 meters. She was zeroed at the factory with 150 grain loads. I’ll check later to see if I have any old targets lying around. I’m sure you’ll like your new rifle.
Oh yeah…I tend to hunt her without the scope more often than not

 

[AfricanSniper915]

I run 180 grain loads in her. I have tried Federal premium factory 180 grain partitions….shot well. Sako 180 & 150 grain loads…shot well. And the Norma 180 grain stuff. Shoots well….. group size ???? Probably near enough to MOA with all that ammunition. The scope I run on her is a 4x S&B. With the iron sights , 65 yard sight, and the 180 grain Norma’s she is close to spot on at 100 yards and near enough at 50 meters. She was zeroed at the factory with 150 grain loads. I’ll check later to see if I have any old targets lying around. I’m sure you’ll like your new rifle.
Oh yeah…I tend to hunt her without the scope more often than not

Awesome to hear I’m still trying to gets some Norma Oryx’s I have Swift Aframes, Swift Sirocco 2, Barnes TSX, and Barnes TTSX ordered to try and see what groups I get with these but definitely still want to try the Oryx’s as well!! I’ll be using mine mostly with a scope but I got the pivot mounts so I can hunt with out the scope if I want I’m putting at Swarovski Z6i 2.5-15x44!! I’ll post pics once I pic it up!!

 

[R eight]

Awesome to hear I’m still trying to gets some Norma Oryx’s I have Swift Aframes, Swift Sirocco 2, Barnes TSX, and Barnes TTSX ordered to try and see what groups I get with these but definitely still want to try the Oryx’s as well!! I’ll be using mine mostly with a scope but I got the pivot mounts so I can hunt with out the scope if I want I’m putting at Swarovski Z6i 2.5-15x44!! I’ll post pics once I pic it up!!

Correction, zeroed with 165 grain Federal at the factory. I’m posting up the factory test target…..none of the test targets I’ve seen from the factory are anything flash. All of my Rigby shoot much better than the test target suggests. The below target was shot with the iron sights. Details written on the target.
I can’t find any targets that I’ve shot with the Norma ammunition with or without the scope.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

That’s insane I’ve never seen a 35 whelen shooting that heavy of a bullet and at that fps that’s great performance!! Love to learn new things!

@AfricanSniper915
And done safely. The usual load using Adi 2209/H4350 fills the case and is compressed. It also runs very low pressure of 47,000cup.
If you use a 60cm, 2 foot drop tube you can get a few more grains in and still not be over pressure. Yes it is still a compressed load but I have fired it in 38 degrees celcieus/ 100 degrees Fahrenheit and had no signs of pressure. I still use a standard Remington large rifle primer.
It definitely puts the Whelen in a different ball park.
Bob

 

[Quaticman]

I have developed a load for my 9.3 x 62 using Reloder 15 and Woodleigh's excellent 320 Weldcore bullet.
It moves along at 2,420 fps and really takes this old girl to an entirely new level.

 

[K95]

I have developed a load for my 9.3 x 62 using Reloder 15 and Woodleigh's excellent 320 Weldcore bullet.
It moves along at 2,420 fps and really takes this old girl to an entirely new level.

I use most of the Alliant Rel powders is most of my calibers.
Rel 17 is great in the 9.3x64 with 285 and 300 grainers. Perfect for my 365 Ruger as well . Rel 15 72 grs in the 9.3x64 with a 250 gr gives over 2850fps.

 

[K95]

@AfricanSniper915
And done safely. The usual load using Adi 2209/H4350 fills the case and is compressed. It also runs very low pressure of 47,000cup.
If you use a 60cm, 2 foot drop tube you can get a few more grains in and still not be over pressure. Yes it is still a compressed load but I have fired it in 38 degrees celcieus/ 100 degrees Fahrenheit and had no signs of pressure. I still use a standard Remington large rifle primer.
It definitely puts the Whelen in a different ball park.
Bob

How much powder are you using with you 310 gr load Bob?

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

How much powder are you using with you 310 gr load Bob?

@K95
Ken
Woodleigh Max load is 59gn and fills the case to the top and is a very compressed load. Pressure is 47,000 cup.
I worked up to 63 grains using a 60cm drop tube and this is to the base of the neck. The load is still compressed but not as much as the normal 59gn load. I experienced no signs of excess pressure with no flattened primers and easy bolt lift.
Disclaimer
This load was worked up in MY rifle and proved safe in that. In any other rifle work up 1 grain at a time watching for pressure signs.
Bob

 

[Vashper]

35 whelen is awesome as well pretty much anything you would shoot with a 9.3x62 can be shot with a 35 whelen the only real advantage the 9.3 has over its is the ability to shoot over 300 grain bullets for dangerous game but most people would just buy a 375 H&H at that point!

Not only. In my opinion, dear Jerome once cited the rules of imho Zimbabwe about hunting dangerous game. And there was a restriction: "bullets with a caliber of at least 9.2 mm." And the 35th diameter has 9.1 mm. Maybe it's a conspiracy.

 

[K95]

@K95
Ken
Woodleigh Max load is 59gn and fills the case to the top and is a very compressed load. Pressure is 47,000 cup.
I worked up to 63 grains using a 60cm drop tube and this is to the base of the neck. The load is still compressed but not as much as the normal 59gn load. I experienced no signs of excess pressure with no flattened primers and easy bolt lift.
Disclaimer
This load was worked up in MY rifle and proved safe in that. In any other rifle work up 1 grain at a time watching for pressure signs.
Bob

Have you tried 2208 and what results did you get.

 

[sgt_zim]

I've shot 250 nolser accubonds and 286 grain Hornady DGX out of the two 9.3 rifles I have used. I shot my nilgai with the 250 grainers at 210 yards and he didn't go 20 yards. I shot the eland at 50 yards with the 286 grain bullet and it ran 30 yards and fell over, my gemsbok was with 286 grain as well at around 250 yards and dropped in its tracks. both loads created huge wound channels.

when did hornady start making a 286 gr dgx? I have a couple boxes of their SPRP 286 gr, but afaik, the only DG they make in that caliber is a DGS.

 

[John Wasmuth]

Their 286 gr interlock RPSP falls into their “Dangerous Game” loads….. but I’m not sure why, it’s not a bonded bullet, not really a thick jacket but it’s been called a “DGX” .

when did hornady start making a 286 gr dgx? I have a couple boxes of their SPRP 286 gr, but afaik, the only DG they make in that caliber is a DGS

 

[Puddle]

I just recently had a chat with a Hornady rep regarding the dearth of bonded bullets for the 9.3.
I asked them why no DGX-Bonded or even Interbonds?

The response was they think the Interlock is just dandy in both their Dangerous Game Series product line and for handloading. "A proven performer" they said.

Uhhh, yea, right. I'm thinking of inviting him to come along with me in a few weeks. I'll use A-Frames, and he'll use their "proven performer", both in 9.3.

I'll have to give the PH a heads up, tho...

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Have you tried 2208 and what results did you get.

@K95
Ken I tried 2208, 2206H, BM2, 8208 and reloader 15. All gave good results but noting compared to CFE223 for velocity or accuracy in the Whelen for bullets upto 275grains. CFE223 seems to sit between 2208/Varget and 2299/H4350 in burn rate and gives high velocities at acceptable pressures. 2209/H4350 is the best powder for the big 310s the others develop high pressure before you get good velocity. With 2209 and the 310s you run out of case room before you exceed pressure limits even using a looong drop tube you can't get enough powder in to be dangerous. 2209 gives me the best velocity and very small groups. 3 rounds cutting a single hole if I do my part at 100yds.
Bob

 

[Aussie_Hunter]

Their 286 gr interlock RPSP falls into their “Dangerous Game” loads….. but I’m not sure why, it’s not a bonded bullet, not really a thick jacket but it’s been called a “DGX” .

It's never actually been called a DGX, the SP-RP bullet just falls under the Hornady dangerous game line of ammo in the 9.3X62 loading. I actually wish Hornady would bring out the bonded DGX in a 300 grain bullet for the 9.3, not sure why they haven't seeing they offer the DGS 300 grain bullet for the 9.3. Even the DGX in a 286 grain bullet would be awesome for the 9.3

https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/9-3x62-286-gr-interlock-sp-rp#!/

 

[John Wasmuth]

I’ve heard it been referred to as the 286 “DGX” by more than a handful of shooters and always figured they got the idea from the Hornady website that lists the 286 interlock in both 9.3x74R and the 9.3x62 cartridges in the “Dangerous Game” series. Although Hornady never refers to it as such. I too wish there’d build a 286 and 300 bonded DGX for both those cartridges but as was mentioned they presume it’s fine and dandy the way it is.

 

[Puddle]

Best I can figure is Hornady just doesn't see the 9.3mm market justifying their going to the trouble spinning up a bonded DGX bullet for the factory ammo product line and bullet offerings.

I'm not familiar with what they offer in Europe-only products.

 

[John Wasmuth]

As more interest grows for the 9,3 they may perhaps attempt it.