8x64 Brenneke....Who has one ?

[yumastepside]

I've been thinking about barrelling one of my '98 Mausers to 8x64 and was curious to know who has one and your thoughts on it...I'm think of shots out to around the 300yd mark or so....

Roger

 

[One Day...]

Beware that there are two 8x64. The 8x64 S takes .323 bullets and the plain 8x64 takes .318 bullets.

Considering that the 8x64 is generally considered obsolete, I would assume (?) that you have the 8x64S in mind.

In terms of power, the 8x64 S designed by Brenneke lies between the original 8x57 Mauser and the 8x68 S designed by Schüler. It is very similar, ballistically, to the 8mm-06. The 8x68 S, which is similar to a .300 mag is likely a better option (flatter trajectory) for shots in the 300 yards range, and it too fits in a standard Mauser 98. But for those who want a metric "do-it-all" cartridge without a "magnum" noise and recoil, the 8x64S is a pretty good option...

To the best of my knowledge at least one European companies, Sellier & Bellot, still loads the 8 x64 S (there was an attempt at revival in the 1990's), but I would not expect it to remain in production long...

One step up in caliber, still fitting in a standard Mauser 98 is the 9.3x64 Brenneke, arguably the one and only medium caliber that is better than the .375 H&H.

Is the 8x64S cartridge the best all around hunting cartridge? — Ron Spomer Outdoors

If you closely follow the RSO blog, you already know two useful metric 8mm/.323 inch diameter cartridges. In ballistic performance the 8x57 IS is practically a metric counterpart to the 30-06 Springfield, though it shoots slightly larger diameter bullets. The 8x68S shoots as close to the trajectory

www.ronspomeroutdoors.com

 

[375er]

The 8x68S is likely a better 8 mm option, and it too fits in a standard Mauser 98.

One step up in caliber, still fitting in s standard Mauser 98 is the 9.3x64, arguably the one and only medium caliber that is better than the .375 H&H

Thems fightin' woids...

 

[Themauserkid]

I’ve got a little ammo kicking around, I’ve been hoping to find one, but have considered building one as well. Good luck with a build, I would be interested to hear about it!

 

[analog_peninsula]

I’ve got an 8x65r, the rimmed counterpart. Practice brass is easy, properly head stamped brass is likely unobtanium.

 

[Themauserkid]

I’ve got an 8x65r, the rimmed counterpart.

It’s not a Merkel by chance is it?

 

[analog_peninsula]

No, it’s a Friedrich Triebel double rifle drilling.

 

[Themauserkid]

Awesome, I love Triebel guns, I’d like to see that someday if you get around to it.

 

[steve white]

Can you just fire form 30'06 for the brass?

 

[analog_peninsula]

Not to derail the thread …

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[analog_peninsula]

Can you just fire form 30'06 for the brass?

I believe you can without difficulty. You could also probably also fire form 7x64 brass if you wanted to get tricky. I use resized 7x65r brass in the Triebel.

 

[BlueFlyer]

Can you just fire form 30'06 for the brass?

I was going to say no, but then I googled 8X64S and realised we have been barking up the wrong tree!
It looks to me that the 8X64S is the 7X64S necked up to .323 (8mm) which means it can be easily made from 30/06 brass.
The 8X64S is not based of the 9.3X64 Brenneke which has a bigger non-belted magnum case.
Roger, is that your understanding?

 

[analog_peninsula]

The 8x64 preceded the 7x64 by a number of years. Strictly speaking, the 7x64 is a necked down 8x64.

 

[BlueFlyer]

The 8x64 preceded the 7x64 by a number of years. Strictly speaking, the 7x64 is a necked down 8x64.

My bad!

 

[analog_peninsula]

I was being pedantic. You were just as right as me.

 

[yumastepside]

Yes, I'm trying to work out if there's any advantage in the 8x64 over my 8-06 Imp. or do I use the 9.3x64 case and neck it down....

Roger

I just found an identical thread by Sestoppelman...

 

[BlueFlyer]

9.3X64 Brenneke cases are a unique size and difficult to find. I have 4 boxes of RWS for mine that I bought years ago. Beretta Australia do currently list them though.
PRC or RUM based wildcat might be easier to source brass.

 

[Grumpy gumpy]

Why don’t you just build a 8x69S , fits in a standard 98action, best of both worlds
Gumpy

 

[FlowHamed18]

Well, I have a 8x64S.

It's a custom rifle based on a Dumoulin Mauser action.

I love that rifle...

I am reloading Hasler bullets from Italy and shm brass from Germany.

Shot a mufflon, fallow deer, wildboars and doe with it.