7.5 x 55 Swiss Smith/Ruben K31 rifle

[Gert Odendaal]

Thank you Machinist, I send an email to them..

 

[rdog]

I have a neighbor with one its like new, i wonder how they machined the complicated parts in that era, its built like a Swiss watch. He has fitted a 2x scout scope, the mount replaces the rear sight i have shot 2 moa 5 shot groups with it,
Beautiful rifle & it had the original owners card under the but plate. He loads PPU brass with Hornady 155 grain match .308 dia bullets with Lee dies. There is a lot of near new versions of these rifles for sale in Australia at the present time .

 

[MS 9x56]

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Two groups shot at just over a hundred meters from my camp in the background to where I am standing. The one group is five shots , other is three if I remember. I will take than any time. Gp11 ammunition.

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Those are some impressive groups! How much does the rifle weigh with scope mounted? How many rounds does magazine hold?

 

[Gert Odendaal]

That is beyond ridiculous.

I am still angry about those thieves...they stole a lot of items. Please members if you bring items for us South African hunters make sure it is a direct flight, do not bring any items when the plane has a stop over in any arabian country, the arabs steal it ...then they pretend not to understand English...

 

[Gert Odendaal]

I have a neighbor with one its like new, i wonder how they machined the complicated parts in that era, its built like a Swiss watch. He has fitted a 2x scout scope, the mount replaces the rear sight i have shot 2 moa 5 shot groups with it,
Beautiful rifle & it had the original owners card under the but plate. He loads PPU brass with Hornady 155 grain match .308 dia bullets with Lee dies. There is a lot of near new versions of these rifles for sale in Australia at the present time .

It seems I will revert to shoot only PPU ammo, the reloading seems a challenge since it is a .306 " bore..but literature suggest shooting .308 " ammo through it is fine???I would like member`s opinion in this regards???Shooting a /308" bullet through a .306 " bore????

 

[Gert Odendaal]

I will try to purchase a clamp on scope mount from the USA based Swiss company ..maybe this time I will get it to SA...

 

[Wyatt Smith]

I shoot .308 bullets through my K31. I measured the GP11 bullets at .3075 with my calipers.

 

[Gert Odendaal]

I shoot .308 bullets through my K31. I measured the GP11 bullets at .3075 with my calipers.

Wyatt do you suggest I shoot the .308 " bullet , it will make reloading for this rifle a lot more easier

 

[MS 9x56]

It seems I will revert to shoot only PPU ammo, the reloading seems a challenge since it is a .306 " bore..but literature suggest shooting .308 " ammo through it is fine???I would like member`s opinion in this regards???Shooting a /308" bullet through a .306 " bore????

Gert I went through this when trying to reload for my Mannlicher Schoenauer 9x56MS. .002” will not be an issue. .004” or up may start raising pressures as it did cause sticky bolt lift in my gun. I solved it by ordering a swaging die and running 358 through it to reduce to 354 which is what my bore size was. You will have no trouble with 308 bullets.

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Gert I went through this when trying to reload for my Mannlicher Schoenauer 9x56MS. .002” will not be an issue. .004” or up may start raising pressures as it did cause sticky bolt lift in my gun. I solved it by ordering a swaging die and running 358 through it to reduce to 354 which is what my bore size was. You will have no trouble with 308 bullets.

Thank you kindly MS your advice is much appreciated Sir

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Thank you kindly MS your advice is much appreciated Sir

What bullets would you suggest I use for this k31 rifle?? Owners of the K31 rifle `s opinions will be much appreciated as well target shooting as well as hunting ..one bullet that will do both types of shooting?? I am using AR 17 as propellant

 

[machinistbutler]

I have used Hornady Interlock 165 gr for whitetail deer here, they work great , and shoot very well out of a bunch of k31's I have. For African game maybe a little tougher bullet.

Gert did you mean RL17? It is a swiss powder and works perfect in the 7.5x55

 

[machinistbutler]

I have a neighbor with one its like new, i wonder how they machined the complicated parts in that era, its built like a Swiss watch. He has fitted a 2x scout scope, the mount replaces the rear sight i have shot 2 moa 5 shot groups with it,
Beautiful rifle & it had the original owners card under the but plate. He loads PPU brass with Hornady 155 grain match .308 dia bullets with Lee dies. There is a lot of near new versions of these rifles for sale in Australia at the present time .

Some pics of antique swiss revolvers from the 1800's , they function perfect and still look almost new. The swiss had some wonderful manufacturing methods and really took care of their stuff.

 

[Gert Odendaal]

I have used Hornady Interlock 165 gr for whitetail deer here, they work great , and shoot very well out of a bunch of k31's I have. For African game maybe a little tougher bullet.

Gert did you mean RL17? It is a swiss powder and works perfect in the 7.5x55

Yes, Machinist Allient Powder Reloader 17 , I think it is the same type of propellant used in the GP-11 ammo

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Some pics of antique swiss revolvers from the 1800's , they function perfect and still look almost new. The swiss had some wonderful manufacturing methods and really took care of their stuff.

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Beautiful

 

[rdog]

Wyatt do you suggest I shoot the .308 " bullet , it will make reloading for this rifle a lot more easier

.308 bullets work fine for my friend, in his K31. The Hornady reloading manual uses .308 dia

 

[Wyatt Smith]

Wyatt do you suggest I shoot the .308 " bullet , it will make reloading for this rifle a lot more easier

I do suggest using .308 bullets. I have bought factory ammunition loaded with the above mentioned 165 hornandy. You will have to pay attention to your OAL, the lands are close on these rifles.

 

[MS 9x56]

What bullets would you suggest I use for this k31 rifle?? Owners of the K31 rifle `s opinions will be much appreciated as well target shooting as well as hunting ..one bullet that will do both types of shooting?? I am using AR 17 as propellant

Since those G-11 bullets work so well I would look for a boat tail bullet with a long ogive such as the current craze of long range heavy for caliber bullets. The Hornady ELD-X is an example. Just my suggestion.

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Since those G-11 bullets work so well I would look for a boat tail bullet with a long ogive such as the current craze of long range heavy for caliber bullets. The Hornady ELD-X is an example. Just my suggestion.

That is my sentiments exactly..a very long bullet with a long ogive ...like the Lapua scenar bullets???

 

[AZDAVE]

@Gert Odendaal when I had a K31 I used 165gr .308 bullets ans they shot great.