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[franzfmdavis]

The Farquharson's have a simple elegance about them in my humble opinion. In a 600 I am guessing the recoil would be very sporty. and would torque very solidly to the side in a light rifle. Have shot several 577's and will stop there as it is my limit on what I can shoot very well. 600's cross that recoil tolerance line for me.

@franzfmdavis the 416 rigby make a great one gun safari rifle, but the recoil from the 375 crosses most folks recoil level. IE 375 300gr 2550fps in a 10 LB rifle recoil is 40-45 ftlbs. The 400gr at 2400 in a 10 lbs rifle is 70ish ftlbs. depending on weight of the 375 and 416 the recoil will go up or down a bit but still 25 -30 flbs difference.

I suppose I will just have to add an extra 50 push-ups a day to my routine to get my shoulder muscles stronger

 

[Green Chile]

@franzfmdavis the 416 rigby make a great one gun safari rifle, but the recoil from the 375 crosses most folks recoil level. IE 375 300gr 2550fps in a 10 LB rifle recoil is 40-45 ftlbs. The 400gr at 2400 in a 10 lbs rifle is 70ish ftlbs. depending on weight of the 375 and 416 the recoil will go up or down a bit but still 25 -30 flbs difference.

Great reply with data to back it up. It supports the general consensus that a 375 in Africa is a good medium and the 416 is a bigger version of that. There is a difference on both ends of the 416, particularly from field positions on sticks or from the bench. Bigger for clients on anything is not needed unless you just like a heavier bullet.

 

[PCC600]

I suppose I will just have to add an extra 50 push-ups a day to my routine to get my shoulder muscles stronger

It honestly isn’t that bad to shoot . But carrying it and the ammo around all day in hot weather would be very challenging .

 

[HankBuck]

I suppose I will just have to add an extra 50 push-ups a day to my routine to get my shoulder muscles stronger

@franzfmdavis - better you add 50 lbs to 150 lbs of body weight…nothing absorbs recoil better then added weight, get your BMI up to a 55-60 and you’ll handle recoil better (you might see cholesterol increase to 450 and lifespan shorten——but you’ll handle recoil better !!)

 

[PCC600]

@franzfmdavis - better you add 50 lbs to 150 lbs of body weight…nothing absorbs recoil better then added weight, get your BMI up to a 55-60 and you’ll handle recoil better (you might see cholesterol increase to 450 and lifespan shorten——but you’ll handle recoil better !!)

You are spot on with your analysis . Body weight is the key . I used to weigh a very trim 135 kg but now a lithe 125 kgs and still active outdoors . Never weighed less than 108kgs in my football playing prime . While I can definitely feel the recoil of big rifles I am able to absorb it better than others .

 

[HankBuck]

You are spot on with your analysis . Body weight is the key . I used to weigh a very trim 135 kg but now a lithe 125 kgs and still active outdoors . Never weighed less than 108kgs in my football playing prime . While I can definitely feel the recoil of big rifles I am able to absorb it better than others .

@PCC600 - I think absorbing recoil is also related to being “relaxed” when you pull the trigger, weight helps but you don’t really need to be over 200 lbs (whatever that is in “kgs” - does kgs stand for Kilograms or Kegs of Beer?). Good tight holds on the rifle, relax, squeeze “roll with it”. A lot of good shooters of Big DG rifles are under 200 lbs (One Keg of Beer).

 

[PCC600]

@PCC600 - I think absorbing recoil is also related to being “relaxed” when you pull the trigger, weight helps but you don’t really need to be over 200 lbs (whatever that is in “kgs” - does kgs stand for Kilograms or Kegs of Beer?). Good tight holds on the rifle, relax, squeeze “roll with it”. A lot of good shooters of Big DG rifles are under 200 lbs (One Keg of Beer).

Yes kgs are a lot of kegs of beer . The XXXX brand . The Australian joke being that people from Queensland drink XXXX because we can’t spell beer . For the non metric world a kilogram equals 2.2 pounds . And yes technique is crucial . There is so much torque generated on rifles in the plus 500 class that a firm grip on the friend is needed to manage muzzle jump and agree you just role with the punch .

 

[Safari Dave]

I weigh-in at about 190.

I just "roll" with the recoil of the "big-boy cartridges."

 

[AZDAVE]

Proper technique is a must, I am 168lbs or just over 76 Kg. and have no problem rolling with the punch so to speak. A friend of mine that is about twice my size thinks little guys have it easier in dealing with recoil as we start rolling much sooner than a big guy. The big guy absorbs more recoil before his body starts to move. I think alot of perceived recoil is in the brain. Some folks look at a round with trepidation vs damn this is going to be fun to shoot mentality.

 

[PCC600]

Proper technique is a must, I am 168lbs or just over 76 Kg. and have no problem rolling with the punch so to speak. A friend of mine that is about twice my size thinks little guys have it easier in dealing with recoil as we start rolling much sooner than a big guy. The big guy absorbs more recoil before his body starts to move. I think alot of perceived recoil is in the brain. Some folks look at a round with trepidation vs damn this is going to be fun to shoot mentality.

I agree with you . Technique is important . Also agree that many people are psyched out by all the bs about broken collar bones . I think there are much worse cartridges to shoot than the 600 .

 

[Bill Raby]

I shoot a 4 bore frequently. That is more than double the recoil of a 600 Nitro Express. If the rifle is designed properly and you are experience with these big guns, it is not a problem. Mine has a solid brass recoil pad and I have never even gotten a bruise from it.

 

[GeorgeGibbs505]

I shoot my 600 Nitro single shot from standing, with my left hand resting on a horizontal piece of wood, it weighs 13 lbs. here’s my best group .

 

[HankBuck]

I shoot a 4 bore frequently. That is more than double the recoil of a 600 Nitro Express. If the rifle is designed properly and you are experience with these big guns, it is not a problem. Mine has a solid brass recoil pad and I have never even gotten a bruise from it.

@Bill Raby: well you must be “the Man”, or that's some magic Soft Brass on that recoil pad?

 

[AZDAVE]

Gun fit is at a premium on rifles 375 and larger!

@GeorgeGibbs505 That dog will hunt.

@franzfmdavis

 

[Brian]

Proper technique is a must, I am 168lbs or just over 76 Kg. and have no problem rolling with the punch so to speak. A friend of mine that is about twice my size thinks little guys have it easier in dealing with recoil as we start rolling much sooner than a big guy. The big guy absorbs more recoil before his body starts to move. I think alot of perceived recoil is in the brain. Some folks look at a round with trepidation vs damn this is going to be fun to shoot mentality.

I agree completely with AZDAVE on this. Brian

 

[Flewis]

Proper technique is a must, I am 168lbs or just over 76 Kg. and have no problem rolling with the punch so to speak. A friend of mine that is about twice my size thinks little guys have it easier in dealing with recoil as we start rolling much sooner than a big guy. The big guy absorbs more recoil before his body starts to move. I think alot of perceived recoil is in the brain. Some folks look at a round with trepidation vs damn this is going to be fun to shoot mentality.

I agree 100 percent in all you just said!