416 Taylor tomorrow!

[C.W. Richter]

400 Swift

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Hodgdon Varget​

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77.0C​

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2,450​

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5,334​

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22.0​

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400 Barnes

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Hodgdon Varget​

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77.0​

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2,460​

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5,377​

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22.0​

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400 Nosler

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Ramshot TAC​

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79.0CM​

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2,550​

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5,778​

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22.0​

Though I knew it was poss w/ modern powders, the TAC load is just too much (in every way). All DG taken w/ the 416 was using 2,450 fps loads (same as all other 416s using much more powder.) With the Varget load, the Swift SPs and Barnes Solids print very similarly, and <1" groups. The M98 X shouldn't let you down ('had 3 prior and made 'em all shooters w/ proper bedding, trigger jobs and handloading.) Typical for IMR powders, they and the Nos PT were more accurate (1-hole groups,) but about 150 fps slower (I might consider using that combo for longer shots at bear/moose/PG. Also more pleasant to shoot.)

 

[shotgungibbs]

My .416 Taylor is built on the Whitworth action. I love the .416 Taylor, and am positive you will too! Beautiful rifle!

 

[C.W. Richter]

Many 458 WMs easily converted to 416 C-T M w/ a bbl swap and headspacing, thus all the Interarms/Whitworths out there.

 

[CoElkHunter]

Many 458 WMs easily converted to 416 C-T M w/ a bbl swap and headspacing, thus all the Interarms/Whitworths out there.

Actually, any rifle chambered for the cartridges in the .458WM family (.264WM, 7mm RM, .300WM, .338WM) with the same case lengths, widths and bases, could be converted to a .416 Taylor fairly easily with a barrel swap and chambering for the Taylor. I've thought about that with building a .375-.338WM? All of the above cartridge brass could also be used to form the Taylor brass. Probably need an intermediate neck expander die(s) when using the .264, 7mm and .300, but it would work as the case dimensions are all the same.

 

[C.W. Richter]

Actually, any rifle chambered for the cartridges in the .458WM family (.264WM, 7mm RM, .300WM, .338WM) with the same case lengths, widths and bases, could be converted to a .416 Taylor fairly easily with a barrel swap and chambering for the Taylor. I've thought about that with building a .375-.338WM? All of the above cartridge brass could also be used to form the Taylor brass. Probably need an intermediate neck expander die(s) when using the .264, 7mm and .300, but it would work as the case dimensions are all the same.

Yes, although the 300 is longer, it's still the same action. But many realize the shortcomings of the 458 and convert to Taylor! There will be others that burn effigies and pulpit-pound over the latest, greatest 458 galvanized solid tin bullets etc. (w/ low SD), but Kevin Robertson and I (and all of his experienced followers know differently and understand and appreciate Statistics.) A higher SD bullet at higher V will pay dividends in the field...That said, of most of the calibers you mention, I'd only convert a 458 WM. Why ruin a 264 or 300 WM?????! LOL (.338 WM is a bit of a misnomer for Sales & Marketing. 2850 for factory ammo? Zzzzz. It is the very beginnings of the awesome .338 caliber-even the 338-06 with hot handloads can keep up with it!) I'll take the 100+ gr A-Sq case every time! 3250 fps. Accurate. Deadly. RUM? Inaccurate. Corporate comittee. If you need a gun of that stature, get a semi-custom or fully custom! (like an old A-Sq.-predecessor to the 338-378 Wby.)

 

[Boyd Brooks]

Actually, any rifle chambered for the cartridges in the .458WM family (.264WM, 7mm RM, .300WM, .338WM) with the same case lengths, widths and bases, could be converted to a .416 Taylor fairly easily with a barrel swap and chambering for the Taylor. I've thought about that with building a .375-.338WM? All of the above cartridge brass could also be used to form the Taylor brass. Probably need an intermediate neck expander die(s) when using the .264, 7mm and .300, but it would work as the case dimensions are all the same.

I have used 338wm brass in my RCBS press with Redding dies to make 416 Taylor cases with one pass. 458wm is easy to use but much pricier than 338. Cutting the extra couple millimeters off of the 300wm cartridges is a pain in the a$$ but if that’s all you got. I finally got some Norma and Quality Cartridge brass with the correct head-stamp and it was really dear.

 

[CoElkHunter]

I have used 338wm brass in my RCBS press with Redding dies to make 416 Taylor cases with one pass. 458wm is easy to use but much pricier than 338. Cutting the extra couple millimeters off of the 300wm cartridges is a pain in the a$$ but if that’s all you got. I finally got some Norma and Quality Cartridge brass with the correct head-stamp and it was really dear.

I'll have to try it using my significant quantity of once fired .338WM brass. I wasn't sure if the neck was too "tight". So far, I've only used .458WM brass which IS one clean pass even with my old RCBS Jr. press. Thanks for the info!