.416 Rem Mag: Information For Building A Budget Big-Game Rifle ( 416 Remington Magnum )

[Country-Folk]

This is February 4 - 2025

Time for an update on the .416 Rem Mag since I made progress after my last post which was a couple weeks ago


A) Savage 110 Magnum Long Action. Got it off of GunBr-ker for 250.00

Was delivered yesterday to my local FFL dealer and picked up. Will show pictures of it further down in my posts.


B) I finally located the stock at Numrich's website and will provide its stock pic and website listing down below. Got it for 90.00

It's not easy finding rifle stocks that have an opening in the magazine compartment whereby measuring from back to front of at least 3.6" (approx 3 5/8") and larger.
The .416 Rem Mag has an overall length of 3.6 and so the opening will need to be slightly - moderately more than that.
The largest measurement I was finding for the magazine compartments is around the 3.3" which makes sense because the most common rounds are less than that. Like the 30-06 has an 3.2" overall length.

The stock is specifically made for a Savage 110 rifle that is the magnum version, has an approx 3.8" length for the magazine compartment, incorporates a larger forearm area for the larger barrels, and the overall length of the stock is approx 32" long.

Numrich has a very nice variety of stocks to choose from, and are very reasonably priced at least for the particular stock I needed.
It only comes with a basic HARD butt pad and so that will most certainly be removed and then a thicker cushioned pad being put on it.

DELIVERY: said would be delivered here last Saturday. This is now Tuesday and well, come on USPS ... are you racing to beat FedEx for lost, misdirected, damaged packages. The stock isnt coming from anywhere there's a wild fire, bad weather, etc


C) Also located the crossbolts online at Brownells which were 7.20 each. (I ordered 3 and will explain why in a little bit.

These crossbolts are a very good idea to install and its probably better if saying they are necessary to be installed on the big-bore magnum rifles.
They consist of a sleeve/tube nut and 2 bolts whereby the 2 bolts get threaded into each end of the barrel nut and squeeze in on the stock to help prevent it from getting split by the recoil.
There are typically 2 crossbolts installed on a rifle. One is often times located in the stock below the large ring of the action, and the other one is often located in the stock near the trigger area.

As for buying 3 of the crossbolt assemblies, 2 of them are being used in the gun and the 3 one is actually going to be turned into the tool (spanner wrench) for tightening the bolts which have 2 holes in the head of them. So I am planning on driving roll pins into the 2 holes of the bolt and then attaching (possibly a spot weld) to a screw/nut driver.

 

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CROSS BOLTS AND MAKING THE SPANNER TOOL FOR THEM:

So for now I worked on the crossbolt tool and a steel base seen in the pictures above .

For the handle of the spanner tool, I used a inexpensive nut driver for the body of the tool.
Cut off the square nub at the end, drilled the shaft of the driver, and then tapped it to 10-32 which is the thread size of the cross bolts

The steel base is drilled and tapped to the 10-32 threads of the crossbolts.
The bolts will then be threaded into that hole and the steel base is clamped in the milling machine.
This process lets me firmly hold the crossbolts in place while opening up the 2 holes in the head of each bolt.
Enlarging those holes allows a little bit of clearance for the roll pins to fit into them.
I still have to tap the roll pins into the nut driver's head which I will do a little bit later on.

 

[Country-Folk]

Here's An Enlarged View OF Stock That I Ordered From Brownells And Was Supposed To Be Delivered Last Saturday

The description on Brownells specifies the stock being designed for the Savage 110 Magnum with Hardwood and Heavy Barrel Channel.
Unfortunately there was only one picture and it doesn't show the view of the underside of the stock.
Therefore I dont know if it has the cut-out in the wood for a box magazine, or if the underside of the stock is largely solid and therefor is meant to be a blind (internal only) magazine compartment

 

[Uncontrolled_round_feed]

Bro, you’re not gonna like this but here’s the info that I wish someone would tell me if I were you on the path you’re on
Stop what you’re doing and understand the situation for a moment
Damn near no one uses Savages for dangerous game rifles. They are accurate but janky, occasionally jammy, considered low class, and push feed (read: considered less reliable than controlled round feed) so suboptimal in a desperate situation. If you want to resell your build down the road it’s going to be worth shite.
Pause for a minute and read and learn
You’ll end up buying a Mauser style action and probably spend less on it in the long run and it’ll be worth what you spent vs a Savage that’ll depreciate by half or more.
You seem like a good kid so please PM me and I’ll happily talk to you and maybe even gift you some shit I have lying around.

 

[BeeMaa]

Bro, you’re not gonna like this but here’s the info that I wish someone would tell me if I were you on the path you’re on
Stop what you’re doing and understand the situation for a moment
Damn near no one uses Savages for dangerous game rifles. They are accurate but janky, occasionally jammy, considered low class, and push feed (read: considered less reliable than controlled round feed) so suboptimal in a desperate situation. If you want to resell your build down the road it’s going to be worth shite.
Pause for a minute and read and learn
You’ll end up buying a Mauser style action and probably spend less on it in the long run and it’ll be worth what you spent vs a Savage that’ll depreciate by half or more.
You seem like a good kid so please PM me and I’ll happily talk to you and maybe even gift you some shit I have lying around.

Perhaps you are right, but maybe not.

I understand what you are saying, but at the same time know exactly where @Country-Folk is on his path...because I've been there.

Yes, the Savage 110 is a push-feed action...but as long as it's reliable with the ammo @Country-Folk is using, I don't see any issue with it. Will it cycle upside down, in a tornado as a Cape buffalo falls from the sky...perhaps, but I doubt that you or I will be there to witness the results.

I've never given much credence to the PF vs CRF argument. Rifles are either reliable or they are not...regardless of action. I've come across several CRF's that needed more than just a little work to make them feed the desired cartridge, so let's not be too fast to judge. Allow this fine (budget minded) gent do his research, invest his time and come up with his own results.

I'll be interested in seeing the progression. Best of luck.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

You won't have much invested in this project. If it goes south as a dangerous game build, you'll still have an action you can easily make into something else. I would have went with laminated before picking hardwood (and synthetic before laminated) but you've only got ninety bucks in the stock. If it doesn't work out, start over. No big loss. You definitely should put a reinforcing rod through the stock wrist. I can give you hints on how I managed it. I went with Winchester engraved crossbolts. Not because they were engraved but because they are screwed together with Allen wrenches (though the engraving is nice). Nineteen bucks each on eBay as I recall.

Lots of iron sights on ebay. I bought a nice set of screw-on Winchester Safari Express sights for about a hundred dollars. Also had to buy a drill and two taps. Usually lots of Remington 700 sight sets on ebay cheap and I think they would be fine for this project.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Perhaps you are right, but maybe not.

I understand what you are saying, but at the same time know exactly where @Country-Folk is on his path...because I've been there.

Yes, the Savage 110 is a push-feed action...but as long as it's reliable with the ammo @Country-Folk is using, I don't see any issue with it. Will it cycle upside down, in a tornado as a Cape buffalo falls from the sky...perhaps, but I doubt that you or I will be there to witness the results.

I've never given much credence to the PF vs CRF argument. Rifles are either reliable or they are not...regardless of action. I've come across several CRF's that needed more than just a little work to make them feed the desired cartridge, so let's not be too fast to judge. Allow this fine (budget minded) gent do his research, invest his time and come up with his own results.

I'll be interested in seeing the progression. Best of luck.

I agree. I'm a CRF guy but I think the debate is mostly cosmetics and tradition. I sure see a lot of complaints about fancy factory CZ CRF rifles that don't function reliably without a trip to the gunsmith.

 

[Country-Folk]

Bro, you’re not gonna like this but here’s the info that I wish someone would tell me if I were you on the path you’re on
Stop what you’re doing and understand the situation for a moment
Damn near no one uses Savages for dangerous game rifles. They are accurate but janky, occasionally jammy, considered low class, and push feed (read: considered less reliable than controlled round feed) so suboptimal in a desperate situation. If you want to resell your build down the road it’s going to be worth shite.
Pause for a minute and read and learn
You’ll end up buying a Mauser style action and probably spend less on it in the long run and it’ll be worth what you spent vs a Savage that’ll depreciate by half or more.
You seem like a good kid so please PM me and I’ll happily talk to you and maybe even gift you some shit I have lying around.

I seem like a good kid?

Listen up hipster doofus, I'm not a kid and I'm not your bro
You sound like that talker who we all seen at one time or another at the town bar thinking he knows more than others and therefore feels he ought to mentor them regardless of himself having genuine credentials for doing so.

If I want your or anyone else's thoughts on doing this project other than with the Savage 110 and other parts that I already researched which includes discussing it with my local gunsmiths who certainly know more than you, then I will come to you or them to ask for it.

No one needs you here with your hyped up jargon that's a lame repeat of other people who push the ideals of a person's gun having to meet the requirements as if the gun is taken to Africa and is having to be relied upon to the utmost degree, whereby if the gun should have a minor hiccup, then the stampeding elephant already got ya pinned to the ground and screaming bloody murder

Nor do I care about resell value.
I'm building this gun because I like a project to keep busy with during the Winter time, and I refuse to spend the common price of 1,500 to 2,000 for a Winchester M-70, Sako 75, Remington 700, CZ 550, etc
I will have this project done for under 1,200 and I will have a reliable gun that suits the needs of myself and many others whereby enjoying the time shooting it on what's OBVIOUSLY an OCCASSIONAL basis since its around 6.00 every time that trigger is pulled

 

[Country-Folk]

You won't have much invested in this project. If it goes south as a dangerous game build, you'll still have an action you can easily make into something else. I would have went with laminated before picking hardwood (and synthetic before laminated) but you've only got ninety bucks in the stock. If it doesn't work out, start over. No big loss. You definitely should put a reinforcing rod through the stock wrist. I can give you hints on how I managed it. I went with Winchester engraved crossbolts. Not because they were engraved but because they are screwed together with Allen wrenches (though the engraving is nice). Nineteen bucks each on eBay as I recall.

Lots of iron sights on ebay. I bought a nice set of screw-on Winchester Safari Express sights for about a hundred dollars. Also had to buy a drill and two taps. Usually lots of Remington 700 sight sets on ebay cheap and I think they would be fine for this project.

Thanks for the advice

Will definitely like to know more about reinforcing the wrist of the gun ... that's not something I have come across yet

Concerning crossbolts .... up in the pictures and descriptions here, I provided the crossbolts which I already purchased and I started making the spanner tool while I'm waiting for the stock to be delivered

Gotta pass on paying 100 bucks just for sights ... I found MK 10 Mauser sights on Sarco.com that are under 40.00 combined and very good quality

 

[Country-Folk]