.308 Win in Africa - fan or foe?

I have a new .308 Win.
Testing 168gr TTSX and 180gr Swift A-Frames for Africa.
What say you?
Recomendations? suggestions?
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If you were shopping I would say .300. Everyone I've taken on safari who has shot a .300 has done exceptionally well. If you can range and dial and use the TTSX you will do fine.
 
I have taken blesbuck, impala, warthog and a large waterbuck with my 308 with 165 grain Trophy Bonded Tipped bullets.

I have take plenty of deer and hogs including big ones in the USA.

308 is the most popular cartridge for plains game among the PHs that I have talked with.

They use them for loaner rifles and they hunt with them as well.

My PH, having seen how well the 165 Trophy Bonded bullet worked on Waterbuck, encouraged me to take a big male eland with it.

I passed on the opportunity and it’s one of my few regrets from my safari.

My PH told me that the 308 and 30-06 were like Ford and Chevy, pick the one you like because they are the same in the field.
 
I also know a guy in Montana who does a lot of backpacking and hunting on remote tracks of public land.

He has killed a bunch of bull elk with his Kimber Montana in 308. Some of them at over 400 yards. He uses 165 grain Accubonds.

A bull elk at long range is a tough animal, large plains game animals are no tougher than a bull elk in my experience having killed half a dozen bull elk.
 
Maybe I will change my mind in the future, but I currently believe the .308 is one of the best go-to calibers out there. It's the balance of low recoil, power, distance, availability that sell me on it for the vast majority of things.

I have taken around 25-30 species from Coyote/Duiker sized animals up to Eland with the .308 using Federal Terminal Ascent and Trophy Bonded Tip. It is incredibly versatile and very well suited to African Plains Game.
 
There are two types of people in the bushveld.
.308ers and .30-06ers.
We look down on the poor .308ers but I have to accept that it gets the job done.
The only thing wrong with the .308 is that it is as common as muck.
I have one and will always have one but it is nice to aspire to having something else but honestly the .308 is pretty versatile
 
I have a new .308 Win.
Testing 168gr TTSX and 180gr Swift A-Frames for Africa.
What say you?
Recomendations? suggestions?
Leave it here or take it?

Speak!
@dogcat1
My son took his Howa 308 loaded with 150gn accubonds and 140gn outer edge monos. Both loaded to 2,950 fps and same poi out to 200 yards.
Every thing he shot from impala up to zebra and oryx died very quickly. A couple of animals needed 2 shots because they didn't realise they were dead but 98% were one shot and done. That was a total of 10 animals for him.
Looking back dare I say I could have left my Whelen at home and killed everything I shot just as dead with his 308. But where would the fun be in that .
Depending on what you are hunting I personally don't see the need for expensive Barnes or A Frames in the 08. A good bonded bullets like Woodleigh or accubond will do just fine.
Even the 140gn outer edge monos punched clear thru bot sides of a zebra at 120 yds. We only recovered one accubond all the rest were complete pass thru with massive internal damage and broken bones.
Take your 308 and have fun.
Bob
 
Maybe I will change my mind in the future, but I currently believe the .308 is one of the best go-to calibers out there. It's the balance of low recoil, power, distance, availability that sell me on it for the vast majority of things.

I have taken around 25-30 species from Coyote/Duiker sized animals up to Eland with the .308 using Federal Terminal Ascent and Trophy Bonded Tip. It is incredibly versatile and very well suited to African Plains Game.
@Sabre - you gave the “perfect” description of the .308: “balance of low recoil, power, distance, availability…”. It is an extremely “efficient” cartridge.
 
I have a new .308 Win.
Testing 168gr TTSX and 180gr Swift A-Frames for Africa.
What say you?
Recomendations? suggestions?
Leave it here or take it?

Speak!
What animals are you planning to take? Eland and zebra might be pushing it. I don't pay.much attention to those that say the chosen cartridge doesn't matter, and shot placement is the only consideration. Sjot.placement is, of course, the most.important thing, but it is.not the only thing. Some animals have big, tough shoulder bones that need to be broken and penetrated. I also !like a bullet that upsets drastically and exits. On my last safari I took a .300 WM with 200 grain AccuBonds. I found it to be superior to the .30-06 with 180 grain Partitions as the effect on game animals was much more dramatic. In NA, I I have used this combination to take a black bear and a bull moose. Except for the moose everything died at the shot. The moose wss.running st 165 yards and the guide was yelling at me to shoot him. I hit the bull in the hind leg with the first shot and he needed another which brings me to my next point. In the field game animals tend not to stand politely while you line up the perfect shot. Any hunter that says he has nevr.made a less than perfect shot is lying. Why use a less than ample cartridge?

If you do decide to take the .308, I opt for the 180 grain A"frames.
 
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Great rifle and Awsome Kudu. What scope does it wear?
The rifle sported an Inexpensive 2.5x10x50 Nikon Prostaff, Later I was told that Nikons were junk, I guess ignorance is bliss.
My PH loved that little Carbine
 
What animals are you planning to take? Eland and zebra might be pushing it. I don't pay.much attention to those that say the chosen cartridge doesn't matter, and shot placement is the only consideration. Sjot.placement is, of course, the most.important thing, but it is.not the only thing. Some animals have big, tough shoulder bones that need to be broken and penetrated. I also !like a bullet that upsets drastically and exits. On my last safari I took a .300 WM with 200 grain AccuBonds. In NA, I I have used this combination to take a black bear and a bull moose. Except for the moose everything died at the shot. The moose wss.running st 165 yards and the guide was yelling at me to shoot him. I hit the bull in the hind leg with the first shot and he needed another which brings me to my next point. In the field game animals tend not to stand politely while you line up the perfect shot. Any hunter that says he has nevr.made a less than perfect shot is lying. Why use a less than ample cartridge?
@doug, poor shooting or poor shot decisions - shooting running game when one is not well practiced doing so (which includes most hunters) - doesn’t matter what caliber or bullet is used - results will be poor or inconsistent.
I agree with you that shot placement “is Not the only thing” But it is by Far the Most Important…maybe 80%-90% of whats needed followed by bullet construction (doesn’t mean a .308 = Elephant gun). There is No meaningful killing difference between a well placed .308 & .300wm ——in the Vitals. On a bad angle - hard quartering away or Texas heart shot “maybe” a couple inches more penetration over 250 yrds? If you were plugging to use a .375 H&H then I’d have to agree there is a signifiant difference.
Just my opinion and possibly others that have extensively used .308, .30-06 and other Non Magnum rounds with good success.
 
The rifle sported an Inexpensive 2.5x10x50 Nikon Prostaff, Later I was told that Nikons were junk, I guess ignorance is bliss.
My PH loved that little Carbine
@Rob404 - maybe Nikon Prostaff scopes are Not well regarded…but if yours holds zero and is clear enough for consistent accurate shooting So What?? It works for you. I have a cheap Tasco 3-9 x 32 that cost $50 and holds zero for the past 35 years - I’ve never bothered to upgrade it even though now all my other rifles have better Zeiss, Swaro, Trijicon, & Leupolds a top them —- that Tasco goes back to a time I couldn’t afford much and its taken much game. I admire fine scopes and now own many but I’ve never missed an animal due to my scope “quality”….and I try not to be a “Glass Snob”
 

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