28 Nosler For Africa

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I have an opportunity to build a custom rifle. One cartridge that has also intrigued me was the 28 Nosler. I do hunt big cornfields in the midwest and whitetails in Canada. I have no doubts it would perform well in Africa but could someone give me the real pros and cons of it. Ive read over and and over barrel life is pretty short. I know this is loaded question but Ive seen some gun writers say its accurate and flat others swear its flat but not accurate.

Any suggestions.....................thanks
 
Pros it is fast.

Cons

1. If you use it quite a bit, it is a 600-900 round barrel type of a cartridge.
2. It can be temperamental to work up load data for.
3. The 7mm PRC is less finicky, more available and cheaper to get factory loads for. Designed to shoot higher BC bullets, and ends up beating it at distance. BC almost always beats speed.
4. The 7mm Rem Mag has a 50 year advantage and is super available.
5. There isn't enough head high in most actions for it to use 180 grain bullets.

In all honesty, I don't think it is a bad cartridge. I thought it was stupid that Hornady came out with the 7mm PRC after the 28 Nosler was really picking up speed. The 7mm PRC has killed that momentum, and it is much less common to see them being built.

I don't think it will die anytime soon, but it has lost so much of the ground game for all the cons I listed.
 
It’s a good round and nothing wrong with it…. It will likely do everything you want.

That said, if I was going to build a 7mm dia custom rifle I think I would prefer a 280ai….just my personal preference I suppose….
 
I have an opportunity to build a custom rifle. One cartridge that has also intrigued me was the 28 Nosler. I do hunt big cornfields in the midwest and whitetails in Canada. I have no doubts it would perform well in Africa but could someone give me the real pros and cons of it. Ive read over and and over barrel life is pretty short. I know this is loaded question but Ive seen some gun writers say its accurate and flat others swear its flat but not accurate.

Any suggestions.....................thanks
Why not go with the 7mm rum if you want a high stepping 7?
Years ago had the 7 stw
I used it one year then went back to the 338 wm
 
I have an opportunity to build a custom rifle. One cartridge that has also intrigued me was the 28 Nosler. I do hunt big cornfields in the midwest and whitetails in Canada. I have no doubts it would perform well in Africa but could someone give me the real pros and cons of it. Ive read over and and over barrel life is pretty short. I know this is loaded question but Ive seen some gun writers say its accurate and flat others swear its flat but not accurate.

Any suggestions.....................thanks
If you really want one, then go for it.

Howsomeever...it's to 7mm RM what 300 WM is to 308 Win. At ordinary shooting distances out to 300-ish yards, a 175 gr NABLR fired at 3100 - 3200 fps doesn't kill any deader or shoot any flatter than the same pill fired at 2800 out of a 7mm RM or 280 AI.
 
If it were me, for Africa, I’d build it in 7MM REM MAG. I’ve killed a lot of PG up to Eland with a 7RM… Elk too.
 
Hello,

If I could have a custom 7mm rifle built, it'd be hard for me not to go with 7x64mm.

Good Luck with your endeavor,
 
If I need more horsepower, I have a custom 300 RUM and a 300 Wetherby Magnum…

My stock Browning A-Bolt SS Stalker in 7RM does everything they do in the way of killing the animals I’ve hunted. I can send a heavier bullet further and more accurately with the Left Hand 300 RUM, only because I didn’t spend the time and money on my RH Browning. Doesn’t diminish the more than capable 7RM.
 
Disclaimer, I do my own work and consider barrels consumables so take that in to consideration for the following. I've had three different barrels in that cartridge, all custom. The first was a nine twist, it was best with 168 Bergers, not so much the 180s. Switched to an eight to shoot the 195s. That didn't live up to expectations and I went back to a new barrel in nine twist and stuck with the 168s. Like the 26 Nosler (I had two), Reloder 33 was the fastest and most accurate powder. Not going to say how far it killed but suffice to say it did not disappoint. There is much data on good hunting loads so developing one the barrel likes shouldn't take more than 20 to 30 rounds. I have since gone to a 30-28 Nosler shooting 210 Berger VLDs. All of the Noslers' freebores were cut to use with Bergers and liked them jammed .008 to .010. Accuracy with the two 28s in nine twist was 1/2 moa or less at 500 meters. As far as barrel burners, one 26 was a headache for load development and didn't last. The second, had a load in short order and sold it to a friend with the caveat it not being a fun range rifle. He took it to RSA and killed fifteen cull animals, seven springbok in an hour off the bipod sitting under a tree out to 400m with 140 Berger VLDs. For the 28s, my load development regime was shoot, then cool to ambient before shooting again. It took some time to get a load but paid off in barrel life. I did two RSA cull hunts with it shooting the 168s, around forty plains game and warthogs and pulled the barrel for the 30-28. Gave it to a friend and he's still shooting 1/2 moa or better at 500m. It's a good cartridge that will kill way out there. It just not a round one can run three or more fast rounds through it and expect it to last.

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A buddy has a 28 Nosler and it shoots very well. We recently each built 280AI on 700 close actions. They are both lasers.
 
Love the 28 Nosler.
Accurate, fast, hard-hitting, mild recoil)
(Along with others)
 
Barrels are cheap. Keep specs and spin again. Hard to go wrong with garden variety .300 WM.
 
As far as taking the 28N to Africa, it should perform just fine with well constructed bullets. But, I tend to look at these things differently. I ask, what is the main benefit of a 7mm rifle that shoots faster than the 7x57mm Mauser?
  • It is faster with the same weight of bullet
  • It may be able to send heavier bullets at adequate speeds
  • It will shoot to a flatter ballistic profile and thus allow the hunter to hit his prey without elevation adjustments out to a longer distance and with less marksmanship skill.
There may be others but that is the list I came up with quickly. The cons have been enumerated well in this thread already. So, for practical hunting application will the 28N perform better? I would argue that in my opinion, it will not make much of a difference for most real hunting applications.

Example: Many claim that the 300 mag is the ideal PG rifle. Yet, I took a 308 with me to Africa loaded with 180g bonded bullets at 2620fps. The rifle was short, and light to carry and quick to bring up to bear. With that little rifle, I took five big game animals each with a single shot. Every bullet was a complete pass-thru and none of them travelled more than 60y. Ranges were from 20y to 202y. No hold over was required. I was confident with it off sticks out to 300y on game. Would a 300 mag pushing the same 180g bullet have passed thru the same animals more effectively? I would argue that it would at best only be just as effective within the distance that I would have likely taken game. Yes, it would have worked better at 400y or 500y but frankly, I do not shoot game at those extended ranges except for varmints.

I am pondering a similar comparison right now in preparation for my next Safari. I have a 7mm/08 which is ballistically identical to the 7x57 Mauser or the 275 Rigby but which fits in a short action, light rifle and is very accurate. I can shoot it with confidence out to 400y and do not plan to shoot on game past 300y. I load it with 140g TSX, 140g Fusions and 150g Sciroccos. They run 2850fps for the 140's and 2651 with the 150's but they all shoot within two inches of one another out to 400y (21" vs 23" drop at 400y)

With a 200y zero it is point blank out to 250y and with only minor hold over it is effective to 400y. Now, I also have an identical rifle in 7mm RM except that rifle is 5" longer overall. It can shoot the 150g bullets faster by 400fps and also fires 175g fusions at the same speed as the 140's in the smaller rifle. But... When those bullets have all passed completely thru the vitals of a game animal, will it really make much of a difference? As long as the bullet arrives at more than 2000fps and fully expands with enough energy to pass-thru or penetrate deep enough to hit the lungs and/or heart, in my opinion, the end result will be the same. In fact the 7mm Mag with the 175g bullet has a MV of 2680fps and drops exactly 23" at 400y. So, with that load the 7mm/08 is ballistically identical. It has less energy, but the difference is small running about 10% less at 400y. So, the difference is so small as to become lost in all the other variables that may affect hunting outcomes. Both will work well.

I do not reload for hunting rifles. If I reloaded, I could possibly get more our of the 7mm Mag. I could also use the Hornady Superformance ammo in the 7/08 to squeeze another 100fps or so from it, but since I like the ammo chosen and know it works well, I decided to forego that angle this time.

The same argument applies to the 28N. If you know your ballistics and shoot game at ethical ranges, you will be just as happy with a 7mm RM or even a 7mm Mauser, or 7mm/08. I plan to prove this with the 7mm/08 in a few months and will be hunting Zebra, Blesbok, Black Wildebeest, and Kudu to name a few and will have a 375HH on hand for any cases that demand more.

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7mm Mag using 150g bonded ammo at 125y - full pass thru DRT
Exit wound is left of front sling swivel​
 
The topic of the OP is specifically the 28 nosler. I could have written about all the 7’s I own and have used but the topic was pretty straight forward.
The op also will use said caliber for long shots in agriculture closer to home. There are pros and cons to every caliber.
 
I apologize for the snarkiness of my last post. After reading all the responses my last neeve was acting up. In MY experience and in this one caliber here are
The pros and cons I have learned-
1. Recoil can be heavy. I am not recoil sensitive and don’t have a brake device on my rifles. Others may feel differently.
2. Barrel life in a hunting rifle.-After initial load work up how many rounds are you going to put through it? I don’t use my hunting rifles for targets, I use my target rifles. The average shooter even with practice in the off season isn’t going to shoot out a barrel in their lifetime. I have shot out a 7stw after several thousand shots, almost all on a range. . .
3. You have lots of .284 options. Lots! They all work great and NO body can predict which will last and which won’t. (Pretty sure the stw is on its death bed tho) so buy the one you like and enjoy it as long as you can. I won’t live long enough to outlast any of the calibers in my gun room.
4. Guns are like women. No one can tell you what you like, it is an extremely personal experience. You can watch every comparison on YouTube and read every Boddington book ever written but the final selection for your eyes, arms, heart and home is yours! Don’t let a know it all salesman blow smoke in your face. They don’t hunt with you, how
Do they know what you want or want to do with it? That goes for brand, caliber and scope etc etc
You asked about the 28 nosler in Africa. I have used them for deer and elk and love mine. I would take it to Africa no problem. If they lose your ammo, so what, you’ll use the camp rental. If the airline loses your rifle, so what, you’ll use the camp rental. If they lose the woman you picked, well I suggest waiting until they find her!
 
I love the 28 Nosler. It is a great Elk cartridge. I’ve taken 6 elk with it. Shots out to 500 yards are chip shots.
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I took a 28 on my last trip to Africa. Excellent on plains game...and I could reach out there to distances farther than I should be hunting. My PH shot at targets long-range (1350 yards) and was so impressed that he ordered one. However, for all of the reasons mentioned above, I sold it (for a 7 PRC) when I got home.
 

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