JOHN GRENZ
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I think that is spot on.Europe is America's primary ally. America wants a strong Europe. America built back Europe after WWII. Long term, America needs Europe when dealing with China.
A unified Europe isn't really a threat to America. Northern Europe and Southern Europe can't get along. They are completely opposite of each other. Eastern Europe and Western Europe don't see eye to eye. Unless a Napoleon or Hitler type personality comes along to unify the continent, the EU will struggle with internal politics.
America would like to get along with Russia as long as Russia had no expansionist plans. A reunification of the Soviet Union is not in America's interest.(ie: Ukraine) America will try to weaken Russia as long as those type plans exist.
In a country that needs $9B of foreign aid per month to function, a 25 year old with no experience gets a job as Deputy Minister at the pay scale of $63,000/mth.
American taxpayer dollars at work.
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Meet Ukraine's new Deputy Minister - 25 year old Anna Sergeeva. She has ZERO experience in Government or Business, and never had a job before. She is now in charge of integrating Ukraine into the European Union and takes home a whopping $63K per month salary!
5:32 AM · Jul 13, 2022·Twitter Web App
In a country that needs $9B of foreign aid per month to function, a 25 year old with no experience gets a job as Deputy Minister at the pay scale of $63,000/mth.
American taxpayer dollars at work.
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Dragoth
@Dragoth31305492
Meet Ukraine's new Deputy Minister - 25 year old Anna Sergeeva. She has ZERO experience in Government or Business, and never had a job before. She is now in charge of integrating Ukraine into the European Union and takes home a whopping $63K per month salary!
5:32 AM · Jul 13, 2022·Twitter Web App
It's not that controversial; but then we can say that the principle of the traffic light is distrust of freedom.
a vibrant European economy is good for the US. productive efforts benefit everyone.Wheels.
We, Germans, risk a serious economic crisis because of Ukraine.
When there was a war in Kosovo, we only cancelled the carnival in solidarity (really true).
If Germany is in deep recession, all other European EU countries will fall into coma.
Isn't that what the Russians, Chinese and Americans want?
A weak EU?
Exactly! Merkel got to playing footsy with Putin for petrol contrary to the US (Trump) and other nations wishing to maintain a distance from and avoid entanglements with Russia. Now Germany is in a pickle with the US, NATO, and others attempting to walk the tight rope over the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Good I say! Germany needs to squirm a little for this breach of solidarity with the rest of the “coalition”. Because of this dust up with Germany I think poor ole @Vashper is so brainwashed he thinks Europe is in a form of Cold War against the US similar to that of the US vs Russia or the Chi-Comms. Brainwashing is quite a thing. So easy to brainwash some people but nearly impossible ever to convince them they have been. And the facts be damned!
they laughed at Trump. Who is laughing now???
Sounds about like our vp.In a country that needs $9B of foreign aid per month to function, a 25 year old with no experience gets a job as Deputy Minister at the pay scale of $63,000/mth.
American taxpayer dollars at work.
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Dragoth
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Meet Ukraine's new Deputy Minister - 25 year old Anna Sergeeva. She has ZERO experience in Government or Business, and never had a job before. She is now in charge of integrating Ukraine into the European Union and takes home a whopping $63K per month salary!
5:32 AM · Jul 13, 2022·Twitter Web App
Now ain't that just the perfect personification of a democrat??I think that is spot on.
If I may take it a bit farther, people, particularly Europeans, particularly non-oceanic Europeans, fail to understand that the United States is a mercantile power. Unlike the 19th century Victorian Empire, the United States neither requires, nor neo-con behavior to the contrary, particularly wants a worldwide collection of dependencies. What it does need is free competitive access to markets. A strong European Union is a key partner in that largely free (ignoring some post WWII Euro tariff policies) economic construct. My reading of history is that traditional Continental powers, of which Germany and Russia or the most historically important, have never really understood that critical component of American national interests. That is not to say such access isn't important to a Russia or a Germany, but it is not the same driving existential force that shapes our decisions about foreign policy.
In short the US doesn't really have any desire to play the world's "gendarme" as @Vashper describes it. Rather, we simply do not just want, but our economic model needs, access to the bar without too steep a service charge.
Events which have the potential to destabilize that construct are things which destabilize Europe. Russia's ill conceived invasion would be the latest - an invasion which raises the concern of further adventurism and destabilizing actions in the future.
Maybe we shouldn't point too many fingers......
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Meet Sam Brinton - US deputy assistant secretary of spent fuel and waste disposition in the Office of Nuclear Energy – for the Department of Energy. At least the Ukrainian looks like she knows she is a woman.
PS to above. That freak with the mustache and lipstick.Now ain't that just the perfect personification of a democrat??
Wheels ,you have answered so much and I am on my way to the meeting..... America wants a strong Europe.
Exactly! ... Brainwashing is quite a thing. So easy to brainwash some people but nearly impossible ever to convince them they have been. And the facts be damned!
Wheels ,you have answered so much and I am on my way to the meeting....
Please remember: Trump named the EU as the biggest threat to the USA after China.
All of you have agreed with him (I say).
The construction of post-war Europe and especially Germany was done by my parents' generations, and Pax Americana ensured that they could do the same.
But it is another thing if the person seeking help one day outstrips the helper and threatens to become an (economic) danger.no one wants that, do they?
Selensky and Putin will lead us into a valley of tears.
Not even a child believes that Putin will ever leave Crimea and the Donbass again, or that he can be ousted from them.
Chechnya did not interest us.
Nor did the war in Georgia.
We are already hypocrites.
If Ukraine is not to look like Germany in 1945, the world community (not only Ukraine) must
negotiate diplomatically with the aggressor Putin and we must ramp up the NATO border states militarily.
Otherwise the war will last a decade and if we are ALL lucky there will be no world war.
Such terrible developments can often no longer be brought under control.
Putin will have to accept that Sweden and Finland will join NATO.
He only has to look in the mirror and know why.
Ciao
You're both taking that out of context. A WEAK / COMMUNIST Europe is a threat to national security. The fact that the US allies were allowing themselves to become susceptible to communist pressure (such as turning off their gas / energy supply) was and is a concern for the USA. The fact that it wasn't a concern for those European countries just boggles the mind!That's exactly it! And I even know who exactly brainwashed me! We open the "Politics" section, the first page, the first post, the first phrase, and read: "The USA has labelled both Canada and the EU as threats to their "National Security" in order to justify new duties declared by their military Commander-in-Chief on the international trade of steel and aluminum".