Selling a rifle how to

[sestoppelman]

Well,,,, let us know if we can be of further assistance helping you unload any more junky old rifles..LOL.

 

[sestoppelman]

That's old news and has been over done on these forums. I use PayPal all the time to buy and sell guns.

Ah, but if they know its for a firearm your account will be canned.

 

[Philip Glass]

Ah, but if they know its for a firearm your account will be canned.

Bought and sold several this year.

 

[sestoppelman]

Not doubting you, just pointing out that Paypal is anti gun and will close your account if they find a gun sale.
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/acceptableuse-full

 

[Ray B]

They've both been sold, locally. A couple of guys I know had their eyes on each and the moment I mentioned selling them, they jumped at the opportunity.

Thanks for all the help. It is much appreciated.

Sounds like they both went to good homes. Glad to hear it, it's sad when a nice gun becomes an orphan

 

[lwaters]

Sounds like the guy who bought my rifles

 

[ScottB]

This is a NRA summary:

Citizen's Guide To Federal Firearms Laws - Summary
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20040324/citizen-s-guide-to-federal-firearms-law

As I understand it, for selling long guns across state lines, you can send it to a FFL in the state where the buyer is located. It is then the FFL's responsibility to make the call for the FBI background check etc. If you are selling a handgun across state lines, it has to be FFL to FFL.

See attached PDF for more info.

Neither handguns nor long guns are required to go FFL to FFL. Anyone can ship to an FFL, no license required.

Now, some dealers won’t accept a shipment from a non FFL, but that is their own silliness, not the law.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Neither handguns nor long guns are required to go FFL to FFL. Anyone can ship to an FFL, no license required.

Now, some dealers won’t accept a shipment from a non FFL, but that is their own silliness, not the law.

Scott: not disagreeing with you, but it does get complicated when shipping to another state and also whether it's a handgun or long gun. I agree that the way the regs read, it does not require a FFL on both ends of an interstate transaction.

https://www.atf.gov/questions-and-a...on-receive-firearm-his-or-her-state-he-or-she
How may an unlicensed person receive a firearm in his or her State that he or she purchased from an out–of–State source?
An unlicensed person who is not prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms may purchase a firearm from an out–of–State source, provided the transfer takes place through a Federal firearms licensee in his or her State of residence.

[18 U.S.C 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3); 27 CFR 478.29]


https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-through-us-postal-service
May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A); 27 CFR 478.31]

 

[ScottB]

Scott: not disagreeing with you, but it does get complicated when shipping to another state and also whether it's a handgun or long gun. I agree that the way the regs read, it does not require a FFL on both ends of an interstate transaction.

https://www.atf.gov/questions-and-a...on-receive-firearm-his-or-her-state-he-or-she
How may an unlicensed person receive a firearm in his or her State that he or she purchased from an out–of–State source?
An unlicensed person who is not prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms may purchase a firearm from an out–of–State source, provided the transfer takes place through a Federal firearms licensee in his or her State of residence.

[18 U.S.C 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3); 27 CFR 478.29]


https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-through-us-postal-service
May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A); 27 CFR 478.31]

Your last bolded sentence is really the main issue. For a long gun, ship it USPS. Inexpensive and (usually) hassle-free.

For handguns, use UPS “Next Day Saver.” It is the (most common) cheapest solution that meets the legal requirement for “common carrier” delivery.

Important to note in the context of this discussion is that neither of these solutions requires the gun to be sent from a dealer.

If you have a good relationship with your local dealer, they can ship handguns USPS, and they might be willing to do it for you cheaper than USPS.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

I shipped a rifle to a gunsmith about a week ago. I went to a UPS store in west Houston and they would not accept it. They told me I had to go to the main UPS hub in Stafford, which was quite a ways away and lots of traffic to contend with. The UPS guy did mention that FedEx about a mile away would take it, so I went to FedEx and had no issues, other than it cost $49.