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Trump is considering the federal government taking partial ownership of private companies that get government bailouts.

That is a terrible path to start down. It is the very definition of Socialism.

His defense is that if the taxpayer is bailing companies out they should get something for it. He is correct in that the taxpayer should not be on the hook. But how about not free bailouts in the first place. Loans maybe.

But once the government starts a program that program is eternal. We do not want government owned businesses competing against companies that don’t take a bailout.
Eventually most will be under government control.
 
Agree.

I dont like municipal and state governments owning businesses.. they do it all the time… in my DFW suburb the city has an ownership stake in a hotel and a convention center… guess which hotel gets preferential treatment to the point of city offices being located inside the hotel?

In the city I grew up in the city owned 100% of the power and water distribution… guess which city services were always screwed up, rife with corruption, etc?

I sure as hell hate the idea of the federal government putting their paws inside businesses “to big to fail”..

Find another solution… or let them fail..

I’d rather suffer the failure of a large bank or automotive company, etc than suffer the ownership stake of the federal government in something like General Motors, Bank of America, etc..
 
Trump is considering the federal government taking partial ownership of private companies that get government bailouts.

That is a terrible path to start down. It is the very definition of Socialism.

His defense is that if the taxpayer is bailing companies out they should get something for it. He is correct in that the taxpayer should not be on the hook. But how about not free bailouts in the first place. Loans maybe.

But once the government starts a program that program is eternal. We do not want government owned businesses competing against companies that don’t take a bailout.
Eventually most will be under government control.
I agree. Just look north of the border at the mess partial public ownership made of Air Canada and Petro Canada. That is a path we need to avoid at all costs.
 
I love liberal math, most likely learned in the failing public school system.

Even if their stats are correct and crime is down 30% in Chicago, any reasonable person says down from what of course. What was the starting point?

Let’s take those numbers into other aspects of life. What if your doctor came in and said; Well we got 30% of the cancer you should be happy that only 70% is left.

The fireman says well we put out 30% of your fire only 70% of your house is still on fire
 
Trump is considering the federal government taking partial ownership of private companies that get government bailouts.

That is a terrible path to start down. It is the very definition of Socialism.

His defense is that if the taxpayer is bailing companies out they should get something for it. He is correct in that the taxpayer should not be on the hook. But how about not free bailouts in the first place. Loans maybe.

But once the government starts a program that program is eternal. We do not want government owned businesses competing against companies that don’t take a bailout.
Eventually most will be under government control.

I agree with you. I also may not be up to date regarding news yesterday or today.

Regarding Intel where the federal government took 10% equity, the money was given by Biden and is now gone without Intel performing. Instead of writing the money off, didn’t the government decide to take the equity stake. I do prefer the equity stake for taxpayers over nothing.
 
The Second Amendment is a part of the Bill of Rights to the U.S. Constitution, stating that "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed". Ratified in 1791, the amendment protects an individual's right to possess firearms for lawful purposes, such as self-defense in the home, a right that has been confirmed by the Supreme Court in cases like District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) and that applies at the state and local levels following McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010)

Sorry, but I don´t see God mentioned here, so it cannot be a "God given" right.

Seems to me like a constitutional right.
 
The Second Amendment is a part of the Bill of Rights to the U.S. Constitution, stating that "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed". Ratified in 1791, the amendment protects an individual's right to possess firearms for lawful purposes, such as self-defense in the home, a right that has been confirmed by the Supreme Court in cases like District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) and that applies at the state and local levels following McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010)

Sorry, but I don´t see God mentioned here, so it cannot be a "God given" right.

Seems to me like a constitutional right.


You have to read a little bit deeper and have a better understanding of US History..

The US Constitution does not specifically state that the Bill of Rights are "God given"..

That said, the Bill of Rights were written to protect unalienable rights that the Founding Fathers believed were endowed by a Creator.

This is a concept derived from Enlightenment philosophies and influenced by the Declaration of Independence.

Enlightenment philosophies came from the age of enlightenment during the 17th and 18th centuries.. some of the philosophers most heavily studied and followed by the US Founding Fathers were Descartes, Locke, and Hobbes.. Enlightenment philosophies were heavily adopted, spread, and circulated by Masonic Lodges.. and many of the US Founding Fathers were Masons.. George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Paul Revere, John Hancock, Francis Scott Key, James Otis, Elbridge Gerry, and Samuel Adams were all Masons.. Madison, the primary author of the Bill of Rights, was not a Mason, but was a known devotee to enlightenment philosophies.. Jefferson, another notable Founding Father was also not a Mason, but was again a very well known devotee to enlightenment philosophies and also a member of another "Secret Society" that followed enlightenment philosophies..

The Declaration of Independence states that all people are endowed by their "Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

You have to understand who the US Founding Fathers were, and what were their primary influences when drafting the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.. "God given" rights or "Natural" rights were part of the Enlightenment Philosophy that the Founding Fathers adhered very closely to and studied greatly while drafting those documents.. when they say "unalienable" in the Bill of Rights, they, per Enlightenment Philosophy are saying that these rights pre-exist the entire concept of Government and that they are DIVINELY endowed.

You can find much more of this in the Federalist Papers, Jeffersons memoirs, and other key documents in US history that were foundational to the formation of the US government..
 
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The Second Amendment is a part of the Bill of Rights to the U.S. Constitution, stating that "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed". Ratified in 1791, the amendment protects an individual's right to possess firearms for lawful purposes, such as self-defense in the home, a right that has been confirmed by the Supreme Court in cases like District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) and that applies at the state and local levels following McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010)

Sorry, but I don´t see God mentioned here, so it cannot be a "God given" right.

Seems to me like a constitutional right.

You are correct in saying that God is not mentioned in the Bill of Rights.

The Bill of Rights are considered rights that supersede government rights and powers, thus coming from God. The Bill of Rights are rights that Americans have that can not be taken away by the government. They are from a higher power than the government. They are God given rights the government can not infringe upon.
 
Fed board member received the going mortgage rate not a discount, so we will need more information on that.

It is my understanding that she did not live in either home but immediately rented both out.

I can’t speak to the interest rates but rentals require a higher down payment for a Fannie, Freddie or FHA backed loan. By claiming primary residence on both properties within less than a month it definitely looks like mortgage fraud.
 
Neither the Constitution nor the Government grants us rights. We have rights as human beings. They are referred to as “natural” rights, whether you believe in God or not. The rights mentioned in the Bill of Rights are not exhaustive. They are only a subset of the rights we have as humans. The 10th Amendment says that any powers not delegated to the federal government, nor prohibited to the states, are reserved to the respective states, or to the people. Even if there was no Bill of Rights, we’d have all of the natural rights anyway. Furthermore, ALL people everywhere have these same rights, even if their government pretends otherwise. It always irks me when people say the Constitution gives us the right to do something.
 
The Second Amendment is a part of the Bill of Rights to the U.S. Constitution, stating that "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed". Ratified in 1791, the amendment protects an individual's right to possess firearms for lawful purposes, such as self-defense in the home, a right that has been confirmed by the Supreme Court in cases like District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) and that applies at the state and local levels following McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010)

Sorry, but I don´t see God mentioned here, so it cannot be a "God given" right.

Seems to me like a constitutional right.
We have access to the Founding Father's books, letters, correspondences, meeting minutes and writings which tell the whole story of their thought process, debates, and compromises. They believed that the rights were God given. "That they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights" is a quote that by itself should put it to rest.
 
You are correct in saying that God is not mentioned in the Bill of Rights.

The Bill of Rights are considered rights that supersede government rights and powers, thus coming from God. The Bill of Rights are rights that Americans have that can not be taken away by the government. They are from a higher power than the government. They are God given rights the government can not infringe upon.
The bible speakes about to obey government as he is the one who put it there. In regards to the 2nd amendment its a constitutional right granted by to all americans until your leaders(Government)decides otherwise through the procedures that must be met to change the constitution. Remember God removes governments, nations aswel as establish them. Everything here on earth is temporary.
 
We’ve had some experience dealing with a government that sought to infringe on our natural rights. We started with a large tea party and ended with waving goodbye to their ships as they sailed east. In between there was a fair amount of unpleasantness while we worked out the details.
 
The bible speakes about to obey government as he is the one who put it there. In regards to the 2nd amendment its a constitutional right granted by to all americans until your leaders(Government)decides otherwise through the procedures that must be met to change the constitution. Remember God removes governments, nations aswel as establish them. Everything here on earth is temporary.
Go back and read post 61708.

Your understanding of the 2nd amendment is incorrect.

The point of the bill of rights isn’t that government or the constitution gives you any rights at all…

The point of the bill of rights is that God gave them to man.. and God supersedes government…

The bill of rights tells us that government cannot take the bill of rights away from you…
 
Go back and read post 61708.

Your understanding of the 2nd amendment is incorrect.

The point of the bill of rights isn’t that government or the constitution gives you any rights at all…

The point of the bill of rights is that God gave them to man.. and God supersedes government…

The bill of rights tells us that government cannot take the bill of rights away from you.
I fully concure with you in your argument but it doesn’t change the fact God gives and removes because he is sovereign. Read the bible. God gives land and riches but also takes it away again because of sin and idolworship among other things. Your rights can also become removes with change in regime.
 
Can anybody please explain to me what in the hell all the chatter is about this? My cousin is a ham operator and he asked me if I knew about this Russian ham station.


I looked it up and, bam! Wired wrote on it two days ago. It looks to me like disinformation hyjinx by Russia Intel taking advantage of the sudden interest by ham operators. Never thought Wired would pick it up and run with it. But I don’t know.
 

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