Alec Baldwin Movie Set Accident

[375 Ruger Fan]

Alec Baldwin's 'Rust' trial on involuntary manslaughter charge set for July

Baldwin will stand trial for involuntary manslaughter this summer in the death of Halyna Hutchins on the "Rust" set in 2021. He's pleaded not guilty.

www.usatoday.com

 

[fourfive8]

Let me get the perspective here straight…. there are 7+ mil motor vehicle accidents each year in the US. These accidents account for over 43,000 deaths. While there are 29 pages over the last 2 1/2 years of posts here about an accident at a movie set just outside Santa Fe NM involving an actor and one death?

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Let me get the perspective here straight…. there are 7+ mil motor vehicle accidents each year in the US. These accidents account for over 43,000 deaths. While there are 29 pages over the last 2 1/2 years of posts here about an accident at a movie set just outside Santa Fe NM involving an actor and one death?

So what’s your point??

People that have traffic accidents, and fatalities are involved, are usually held accountable.

People who shoot and kill other people are usually held accountable.

It seems if you are a Hollywood elite (jerk), apparently you can get away with murder.

 

[mdwest]

the key to the baldwin case in "involuntary manslaughter"..

manslaughter requires "recklessness"...

not all MVA's that involve a death are a result of reckless behavior (plenty of accidents occur with people observing the speed limit, not being drunk, etc.. and have someone die as a result of the accident).. .

in baldwins situation they are asserting he participated in reckless behavior which resulted in a death..

much like someone would be criminally charged for involuntary manslaughter if they were intoxicated while driving and caused an accident that resulted in death.. or they were committing a "reckless driving" offense (extreme excessive speed, or purposefully weaving in and out of traffic, etc..) which resulted in a death.. (the driver in these cases would be facing the same potential penalties that baldwin is facing)..

 

[freefall]

The salient difference that I see is that most of the people involved in vehicular accidents have not been pontificating on the evils of auto ownership and urging that cars be illegal for general ownership and use.

 

[Ridge Runner]

Let me get the perspective here straight…. there are 7+ mil motor vehicle accidents each year in the US. These accidents account for over 43,000 deaths. While there are 29 pages over the last 2 1/2 years of posts here about an accident at a movie set just outside Santa Fe NM involving an actor and one death?

Yep....you have it in perspective.....

Just like politics has how many pages? and the accumulated multiple pages on the 458WM?

Yeah it's hard to wrap one's head about what gets the most attention on this forum.

 

[freefall]

Yep....you have it in perspective.....

Just like politics has how many pages? and the accumulated multiple pages on the 458WM?

Yeah it's hard to wrap one's head about what gets the most attention on this forum.

Oh, please! May we not beat the .45-70 for Dangerous Game horse a little longer?

 

[Ridge Runner]

Oh, please! May we not beat the .45-70 for Dangerous Game horse a little longer?

Jeez.....okay with me,..I guess. How about........the accumulated post on best caliber for DG.In place of accumulated pages on the 458WM.

 

[shootist~]

Local news reporting verdicts on Armorer trial:
Guilty on Involentary Manslaughter.
Not guilty on tampering with evidence.

 

[375er]

Local news reporting verdicts on Armorer trial:
Guilty on Involentary Manslaughter.
Not guilty on tampering with evidence.

Does not bode well for Baldwin then.

 

[sureshot375]

Sounds like a good verdict.

I hope they get Baldwin too. He pressed on despite serious red flags and warnings about the safety issues. Whether he pulled the trigger(which he did) is completely irrelevant.

 

[mauserhunter]

I'm waiting for when they show the video In court of him saying he pulled the Tigger like 10 times when the police first interviewed him,

 

[shootist~]

The testimony (based on the snippets I've seen), indicate Baldwin fired the initial loading of blanks and wanted to do another run-through - immediately. He was demanding the Armorer hurry up and get it loaded back up. Every thing was rushed, including the required secondary check by the assistant director.

Local news showed a still picture of the box of ammo (blanks) - with blanks and live rounds inserted nose down and primer side up. Just like you would have at home.

From just that picture it appears that the blanks had copper colored primers, and a live round (circled in the picture) had a silver colored primer. Also there were some spent rounds (or possibly dummies) with spent primers. Some of those primers were also silver.

It looked confusing as hell to me. But assuming some level of competence, I can't see how you could load a revolver and not see the lead bullet sticking out the end of the brass.

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

The testimony (based on the snippets I've seen), indicate Baldwin fired the initial loading of blanks and wanted to do another run-through - immediately. He was demanding the Armorer hurry up and get it loaded back up. Every thing was rushed, including the required secondary check by the assistant director.

Local news showed a still picture of the box of ammo (blanks) - with blanks and live rounds inserted nose down and primer side up. Just like you would have at home.

From just that picture it appears that the blanks had copper colored primers, and a live round (circled in the picture) had a silver colored primer. Also there were some spent rounds (or possibly dummies) with spent primers. Some of those primers were also silver.

It looked confusing as hell to me. But assuming some level of competence, I can't see how you could load a revolver and not see the lead bullet sticking out the end of the brass.

The fact that there were live rounds even in the same building should be punishable. Who ever thought that having live rounds close to blanks for a movie set was a good idea.

 

[Doug Hamilton]

Let me get the perspective here straight…. there are 7+ mil motor vehicle accidents each year in the US. These accidents account for over 43,000 deaths. While there are 29 pages over the last 2 1/2 years of posts here about an accident at a movie set just outside Santa Fe NM involving an actor and one death?

When people drink and drive then kill someone in an auto accident they go to prison. Should we expect less because because the criminal is an elite, Hollywood liberal?

 

[baxterb]

Let me get the perspective here straight…. there are 7+ mil motor vehicle accidents each year in the US. These accidents account for over 43,000 deaths. While there are 29 pages over the last 2 1/2 years of posts here about an accident at a movie set just outside Santa Fe NM involving an actor and one death?

Yes.

conservative-minded people are bothered by hypocrisy more often than not.

When a liberal puke kills someone with a gun that, in other realms thinks should be banned- hypocrisy ensues.

This is basic human behaviour stuff.

 

[Mac13]

The typical hypocritical liberal.

How can one be against guns to the degree he is and yet have no problem using one in most of his movies?

 

[HankBuck]

When people drink and drive then kill someone in an auto accident they go to prison. Should we expect less because because the criminal is an elite, Hollywood liberal?

DOUG: I believe it is very UNfair to expect Hollywood Actors to be held accountable - they are Not real people, they are “pretenders” and we have to accept they do Not use their brains the same as real people do. They “read what to say”, are told (Directed) what to do and when, and they do all of that very well…. Give Alec credit for what he does well - he married Kim Bassinger (when she was ”Hot”)—-that was an A+ accomplishment. Who points any gun at someone without personally checking to see it’s Unloaded or does Not have a live round in it??? I have No idea how anyone does that, no matter who handed you the gun = YOU always check it yourself

 

[Doug Hamilton]

DOUG: I believe it is very UNfair to expect Hollywood Actors to be held accountable - they are Not real people, they are “pretenders” and we have to accept they do Not use their brains the same as real people do. They “read what to say”, are told (Directed) what to do and when, and they do all of that very well…. Give Alec credit for what he does well - he married Kim Bassinger (when she was ”Hot”)—-that was an A+ accomplishment. Who points any gun at someone without personally checking to see it’s Unloaded or does Not have a live round in it??? I have No idea how anyone does that, no matter who handed you the gun = YOU always check it yourself

In this case it WAS Alec Baldwin doing the directing. He does not get to claim innocence because he is an idiot liberal.

Your reply did remind me . of something that happened at deer camp many years ago. My cousin had bought a new Browning 9mm. He brought it out and handed it off. There were 5 or 6 of us all about the same age and had gone to school together. We each took a turn handling the pistol then passed it on to the next guy. After it got back.to my cousin one of the guys said something about how none of us let the muzzle cross anyone, and that each one of us checked the chamber as we took.the gun, even though we all.had seen the guy before do the same thing. We all understood that safe gun handling is just what you have to do. Being a rich actor does not mean that you get to blame the gun that you failed to handle safely.

Having worked in the prison system for 22 years, O have heard every excuse for bad behavior. Personal responsibility still matters. Stupid should hurt.

 

[HankBuck]

In this case it WAS Alec Baldwin doing the directing. He does not get to claim innocence because he is an idiot liberal.

Your reply did remind me . of something that happened at deer camp many years ago. My cousin had bought a new Browning 9mm. He brought it out and handed it off. There were 5 or 6 of us all about the same age and had gone to school together. We each took a turn handling the pistol then passed it on to the next guy. After it got back.to my cousin one of the guys said something about how none of us let the muzzle cross anyone, and that each one of us checked the chamber as we took.the gun, even though we all.had seen the guy before do the same thing. We all understood that safe gun handling is just what you have to do. Being a rich actor does not mean that you get to blame the gun that you failed to handle safely.

Having worked in the prison system for 22 years, O have heard every excuse for bad behavior. Personal responsibility still matters. Stupid should hurt.

DOUG: When I hand a gun to my 30 yr old Son - I open it first, right in front of him and check to be sure it’s UNloaded…. He will then also immediately check the chamber and still we keep muzzle pointed in safe direction - that’s an ingrained habit for both of us…but I believe only Firearm owners and users are that careful. I’m Not sure if Alec is responsible “legally” but I know I wouldn’t trust anyone to hand me a gun and “trust” it’s unloaded — Not even my Son, it only takes a second to double check for yourself.