What’s Wrong With UN CITES?

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A U.S.-based cultural organisation has started asking some tough questions about what’s wrong with CITES – the UN’s designated international wildlife trade regulating agency. Nothing at all, if judged by other United Nations agencies.

It functions efficiently, organises meetings effectively, responds to assignments quickly, and keeps its member states fully informed.

So if there is nothing “wrong” with CITES as an organisation, why does it draw such sharp and constant criticism from its wildlife-rich and elephant-overpopulated Southern African members as well as a number of outside observers?

The answer, according to Godfrey Harris, the Managing Director of the Los Angeles-based Ivory Education Institute, is that “the essence of the organisation’s activities have been captured by non-governmental forces. These forces dictate what CITES does and how it does it.”

Harris continued: “Take a vote at the recently concluded 19th CITES Conference of the Parties (CoP19). The 184-member states meeting in Panama voted to create a one-shoe-size-fits-all ban on the export of live elephants.

“They did this at the behest of the European Union.

“Its delegate, representing the union’s member states suggested making the ban ‘temporary’ – the Union’s subtle way of continuing colonial-style European control of African elephant policy while keeping the elephant over-populated states of southern Africa within the CITES family and the Western non-profit organisations, who need elephant issues to stimulate their fundraising activities, happy.”

Harris, a former U.S. diplomat and management advisor to the late President Lyndon Johnson, notes that from a diplomatic perspective, the concept of a “temporary” ban was a clever ploy.

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CITES is passed its sell by date.

It worked then we need something new now.
 
CITES is passed its sell by date.

It worked then we need something new now.
Just seen that Blesbuck and Plains Zebra has been added to TOPS. What a joke.
 
Marius it's not April Fools day yet are you serious ??????????
Unfortunately not April's Fools, Frederik. As I understand it, add Sable and Blue Wildebeest to that as well.
 
Basically a list of threatened species in South Africa. Meaning that you'd need a permit within the country to hunt a certain species on that list.

Meaning an indirect tax.
 
CITES, like every other organization, is getting too political. It is getting too much pressure from nitwits who know nothing about hunting or wildlife management and it doesn't want to upset the money flow.
 
CITES, like every other organization, is getting too political. It is getting too much pressure from nitwits who know nothing about hunting or wildlife management and it doesn't want to upset the money flow.
The First Imperative of any bureaucracy is to ensure its continued survival.
 
Just seen that Blesbuck and Plains Zebra has been added to TOPS. What a joke.
Common reedbuck and Sharpes grysbok have been removed.... incompetence in the department is coming through!! maybe minister creecy should be on the open list.
 
It still has to pass the public participation phase
But yes makes absolutely no sense
Its a joke and mase zero sense
Phasa and wrsa are fighting it and some other organisations

Will see what happens

There are more sable now than ever before, they werent on tops previously and now that want to add them
 
It still has to pass the public participation phase
But yes makes absolutely no sense
Its a joke and mase zero sense
Phasa and wrsa are fighting it and some other organisations

Will see what happens

There are more sable now than ever before, they werent on tops previously and now that want to add them
Exactly it makes no sense but what the previous 20 years of TOPS has taught us it did just the opposite of what they wanted to do and take more care of certain species.

So what happened Black wildebeest and Bontebok numbers have not grown at all why becaue of extra red tape and indrance.

I'm sure the game breeders PHASA and Susco will rightly point it out that TOPS is not a solution and hasnt been it has been proved over the last 20 years.
Some provinces just ignore TOPS as they think its silly and waste of time and thats from nature Conservation offices.
 
Keep in that mind that this recent proposal for adding blesbok, sable, and Burchell's zebra to TOPS was not done out of an anti-hunting stance. It's because of the notoriously incompetent and stupid minister, Barbara Creecy. She makes up BS just so that she's doing something in her occupation and can therefore be paid. She's done similar things in regard to fishing rights.
 
Keep in that mind that this recent proposal for adding blesbok, sable, and Burchell's zebra to TOPS was not done out of an anti-hunting stance. It's because of the notoriously incompetent and stupid minister, Barbara Creecy. She makes up BS just so that she's doing something in her occupation and can therefore be paid. She's done similar things in regard to fishing rights.
So typical of petty bureaucrats. Self preservation, to hell with common sense.
 

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