What can you Bring Back to Canada from the US?

[Aaron N]

I’ve spent some time looking online for an answer about what the US Govt will let out of the country without a permit, but I can’t find an answer.

I know scopes need an export permit, but what about items like bullets, brass, rifle stocks, or pistol grips?

My folks are driving to AZ at the end of the month, and I thought if I could get my orders shipped to them, they could bring it all home.

I know our border guards don’t care, and I doubt the odd of the American ones stopping them, but I still wouldn’t want to put a pair of seniors in that position.

@Boyd Brooks I believe you winter down south, don’t you? Maybe you have experience In bringing items home.

 

[Boyd Brooks]

I’ve spent some time looking online for an answer about what the US Govt will let out of the country without a permit, but I can’t find an answer.

I know scopes need an export permit, but what about items like bullets, brass, rifle stocks, or pistol grips?

My folks are driving to AZ at the end of the month, and I thought if I could get my orders shipped to them, they could bring it all home.

I know our border guards don’t care, and I doubt the odd of the American ones stopping them, but I still wouldn’t want to put a pair of seniors in that position.

@Boyd Brooks I believe you winter down south, don’t you? Maybe you have experience In bringing items home.

Yes I am in AZ now, home end of April. I have only brought brass home so far as that is the only thing I couldn’t get in Canada.
LAST two returns to Canada the only thing the bitchy CBSA personal we’re worried about is why did you defy J Turds request to return (2020) and are you driving to avoid his hotel hell (2021).
I am no authority but if you aren’t running assembled firearms or powder/primers they probably won’t care.
I would e-mail a request for information to both CBSA and CBP about what is allowed.
It took me a couple months to get straight answers about bringing my African memories to my AZ home. It basically boiled down to declaring them at the crossing and a quick Fish and Wildlife inspection.
I try to follow the rules as I wouldn’t want a border ban, that would suck even worse than a couple confiscated items.

 

[BRICKBURN]

Why I always get my 6NIA.

Direct experience:
I attempted to cross at Aden with bullets (not cartridges), legally purchased. I declared them when stopped by US customs. They refused my exit. No 6NIA in my possession at that moment. I then had my 6NIA sent to me electronically as I made my way to Coutts. I was not stopped on US side this time. They knew I was coming.
Canadian side could care less, beyond PAL.
My guess is that the Aden staff were shocked to see anyone approach and wondered how anyone but a local rancher knew where the damn crossing was.

With the items you listed I'd get them a 6NIA and the small stuff won't get a second look.

Good luck.

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Importation, Exportation and Transportation In-Transit of Ammunition​

Any individual can import up to 5,000 rounds of small arms cartridges into Canada without an import permit if they are for personal use (i.e., not for resale).
https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/our-natural...on-and-transportation-transit-ammunition/9909

Ammunition, primers and powders​

As per the Explosives Regulations, 2013, Section 45, a person may import, export or transport in transit explosives without a permit if the following conditions are met:

• the explosive is imported, exported, or transported in transit for personal use and not for commercial purposes
• the explosive enters or leaves Canada with the person importing it; or exporting it or, if the explosive is transported in transit, it remains with the person transporting it at all times
• in the case of small arms cartridges, the cartridges do not include a tracer, incendiary or similar military component or device (for example, an armour-piercing handgun projectile)
• the quantity of the explosive being imported, exported, and transported in transit is not more than the quantity set out in the table

Within the prescribed limits, non-residents can import 200 rounds duty free for hunting purposes, or up to 1,500 rounds duty free for use at a recognized competition.

Information on permits to import personal quantities of explosives in excess of those outlined in the Explosives Regulations, 2013or on importation for commercial purposes can be found in Memorandum D19-6-1, Administration of the Explosives Act, or by contacting Natural Resources Canada.

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/import/iefw-iefa-eng.html


A migrant admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant visa is prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving, or possessing a firearm or ammunition unless the migrant falls within one of the exceptions provided in 18 U.S.C. § 922(2). These exceptions include possession of a valid hunting license or permit, admission for lawful hunting or sporting purposes, and foreign law enforcement officers of a friendly foreign government who enter the United States on official law enforcement business.

All non-immigrants (NIA), including persons who are admitted to the United States without a visa (e.g., from a Visa Waiver Program country) must apply for an Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) permit by completing and submitting to ATF the ATF Form 6NIA Application/Permit for Temporary Importation of Firearms and Ammunition by Non-immigrants, ATF Form 5330.3D. The ATF Form 6NIA may be faxed to ATF at (304) 616-4554.
For more information, you may contact the ATF Imports Branch via email at imports@atf.gov

Migrants admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant visa is prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving, or possessing a firearm or ammunition unless the migrant falls within one of the exceptions provided in 18 U.S.C. § 922(2). These exceptions include possession of a valid hunting license or permit, admission for lawful hunting or sporting purposes, and foreign law enforcement officers of a friendly foreign government who enter the United States on official law enforcement business.
All non-immigrant (NIA), including persons who are admitted to the United States without a visa (e.g., from a Visa Waiver Program country) must apply for an Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) permit by completing and submitting to ATF the ATF Form 6NIA Application/Permit for Temporary Importation of Firearms and Ammunition by Non-immigrant, ATF Form 5330.3D. The ATF Form 6NIA may be faxed to ATF at (304) 616-4554.
For more information, please contact the ATF Imports Branch via email at imports@atf.gov .

https://help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-610?language=en_US

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[Aaron N]

Why I always get my 6NIA.

Direct experience:
I attempted to cross at Aden with bullets (not cartridges), legally purchased. I declared them when stopped by US customs. They refused my exit. No 6NIA in my possession at that moment. I then had my 6NIA sent to me electronically as I made my way to Coutts. I was not stopped on US side this time. They knew I was coming.
Canadian side could care less, beyond PAL.
My guess is that the Aden staff were shocked to see anyone approach and wondered how anyone but a local rancher knew where the damn crossing was.

With the items you listed I'd get them a 6NIA and the small stuff won't get a second look.

Good luck.

​

Importation, Exportation and Transportation In-Transit of Ammunition​

Any individual can import up to 5,000 rounds of small arms cartridges into Canada without an import permit if they are for personal use (i.e., not for resale).
https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/our-natural...on-and-transportation-transit-ammunition/9909

Ammunition, primers and powders​

As per the Explosives Regulations, 2013, Section 45, a person may import, export or transport in transit explosives without a permit if the following conditions are met:

• the explosive is imported, exported, or transported in transit for personal use and not for commercial purposes
• the explosive enters or leaves Canada with the person importing it; or exporting it or, if the explosive is transported in transit, it remains with the person transporting it at all times
• in the case of small arms cartridges, the cartridges do not include a tracer, incendiary or similar military component or device (for example, an armour-piercing handgun projectile)
• the quantity of the explosive being imported, exported, and transported in transit is not more than the quantity set out in the table

Within the prescribed limits, non-residents can import 200 rounds duty free for hunting purposes, or up to 1,500 rounds duty free for use at a recognized competition.

Information on permits to import personal quantities of explosives in excess of those outlined in the Explosives Regulations, 2013or on importation for commercial purposes can be found in Memorandum D19-6-1, Administration of the Explosives Act, or by contacting Natural Resources Canada.

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/import/iefw-iefa-eng.html


A migrant admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant visa is prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving, or possessing a firearm or ammunition unless the migrant falls within one of the exceptions provided in 18 U.S.C. § 922(2). These exceptions include possession of a valid hunting license or permit, admission for lawful hunting or sporting purposes, and foreign law enforcement officers of a friendly foreign government who enter the United States on official law enforcement business.

All non-immigrants (NIA), including persons who are admitted to the United States without a visa (e.g., from a Visa Waiver Program country) must apply for an Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) permit by completing and submitting to ATF the ATF Form 6NIA Application/Permit for Temporary Importation of Firearms and Ammunition by Non-immigrants, ATF Form 5330.3D. The ATF Form 6NIA may be faxed to ATF at (304) 616-4554.
For more information, you may contact the ATF Imports Branch via email at imports@atf.gov

Migrants admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant visa is prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving, or possessing a firearm or ammunition unless the migrant falls within one of the exceptions provided in 18 U.S.C. § 922(2). These exceptions include possession of a valid hunting license or permit, admission for lawful hunting or sporting purposes, and foreign law enforcement officers of a friendly foreign government who enter the United States on official law enforcement business.
All non-immigrant (NIA), including persons who are admitted to the United States without a visa (e.g., from a Visa Waiver Program country) must apply for an Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) permit by completing and submitting to ATF the ATF Form 6NIA Application/Permit for Temporary Importation of Firearms and Ammunition by Non-immigrant, ATF Form 5330.3D. The ATF Form 6NIA may be faxed to ATF at (304) 616-4554.
For more information, please contact the ATF Imports Branch via email at imports@atf.gov .

https://help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-610?language=en_US

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That seems to deal with importation into the United States. Thanks for the info though.
I guess a phone call tot he ATF is the best course of action?

 

[Aaron N]

On a side note, I came across a statement from a law firm claiming that scopes are to be removed from the ITAR. This was in 2020. Should this make them easier to export?