Tim Sundles 4 shots of 600 NE into Buffalo

[Tim Sundles]

Glad to see you here.

Thank you. Life is short and is to be enjoyed and do to that philosophy, I will not be back here. Far too many rude folks that simply want to take jabs and yet they know nothing and were not there. Never mind, that I did not post this video here. Someone took it off my personal site and posted it. My time is far too short to waste on people like this.

 

[Tim Sundles]

I for one hope you stay around when time permits.
I am new to the forum. And have never hunted Africa.
But there are some good people here.
And I also like your yt Chanel when yt is not taking you down.

Much thanks. I enjoy doing those video on censortube. It is Kims and my goal to destroy myths within the shooting industry as this industry is perhaps the least informed and most mythic of any industry I know.

 

[TOBY458]

I've hunted with Mark in TZ, but I took a 577, since he had extra 577 ammo in camp. I had one buff charge with Mark and Mark simply stepped out of the line of fire, did not shoulder his rifle and said "Stop her Tim", which I did with one barrel. Mark is likely the best PH Ive hunted with. I learned more from him than any other PH. We took leopard, many buff and countless head of plains game and a couple other predators together. I wanted a dry ground hippo, but the only hippo bull we located was in the water and would not come out. Like you, I cannot get enough of Africa.

I actually had a hunt booked with him years ago, but at the time it was too much of a financial stretch for me, so I cancelled. I kick myself to this day for that! I was going to hunt two Cape buffalo and some PG in Tanzania.

I’ve hunted Zim three times over the last four years and have tried to shoot a dry land hippo as well. But like you, we could never find a bull out of the water. We did have an old battle scarred cow charge us from the bank. She almost got it, but she turned at the last second before we shot her. Big fun nonetheless!

 

[Tim Sundles]

I for one hope you stay around when time permits.
I am new to the forum. And have never hunted Africa.
But there are some good people here.
And I also like your yt Chanel when yt is not taking you down.

Well, thank you, but I am busy and this forum just left a very bad taste in my mouth.

 

[Hunter-Habib]

I did not post this video here, somebody I do not even know posted it. At 19 you are almost one half where I am and no, that is not a pissing contest, just a fact. I'm into African animals, at least 700-800 head and am headed to Bots soon to ele hunt, but will be using a 577 NE. People need to learn to be respectful and kind. What a bunch of bogus, jealous wannabees. Sad. I posted this video on my site, not here.

I’m not your enemy, Mr. Sundles (as a matter of fact, I’ve always admired and publicly highlighted your revolutionary contributions in the big bore ammunition industry).

But you also must understand internet culture. When any content is put up online (be it on your own website or here), it will inevitably circulate onto other platforms. People will see it and they will speculate. Maybe they shouldn’t but it’s what people do. Which is why it would be advisable to always include a postmortem of the downed game in your future videos. It would prove quite educational for other hunters, be quite demonstrative of bullet performance and it would spare you the trouble of having to indulge in these nasty exchanges with people online.

Best of luck on your Botswana elephant hunt. I shot my life’s first elephant there in 1976. They have some great tuskers there.

 

[Tim Sundles]

I actually had a hunt booked with him years ago, but at the time it was too much of a financial stretch for me, so I cancelled. I kick myself to this day for that! I was going to hunt two Cape buffalo and some PG in Tanzania.

I’ve hunted Zim three times over the last four years and have tried to shoot a dry land hippo as well. But like you, we could never find a bull out of the water. We did have an old battle scarred cow charge us from the bank. She almost got it, but she turned at the last second before we shot her. Big fun nonetheless!

I've tried and tried to get a big bull hippo to charge, to no avail. bummer. The deal I worked out with Sullivan (and he kept his word) was that he would not shoot any of my animals, unless my gun was empty. Every day, he would joke that he hoped a buff or hippo stomped me to death, since he could not shoot. Great guy. I still speak with him several times a year.

 

[TOBY458]

I've tried and tried to get a big bull hippo to charge, to no avail. bummer. The deal I worked out with Sullivan (and he kept his word) was that he would not shoot any of my animals, unless my gun was empty. Every day, he would joke that he hoped a buff or hippo stomped me to death, since he could not shoot. Great guy. I still speak with him several times a year.

I bet he was like a fish out of water not being able to take part in the fun. lol!
I’ve spoken to him several times over the years and so can imagine he’d be a fun guy to hunt with. But I’d be just like you and tell him to let me shoot my own buffalo! Lol!

 

[Tim Sundles]

I’m not your enemy, Mr. Sundles (as a matter of fact, I’ve always admired and publicly highlighted your revolutionary contributions in the big bore ammunition industry).

But you also must understand internet culture. When any content is put up online (be it on your own website or here), it will inevitably circulate onto other platforms. People will see it and they will speculate. Maybe they shouldn’t but it’s what people do. Which is why it would be advisable to always include a postmortem of the downed game in your future videos. It would prove quite educational for other hunters, be quite demonstrative of bullet performance and it would spare you the trouble of having to indulge in these nasty exchanges with people online.

Best of luck on your Botswana elephant hunt. I shot my life’s first elephant there in 1976. They have some great tuskers there.

We will be hunting the north central part of Bots. I think on the Zambian border. Looking for only 70 lb and up tusks. I would more than happily go home empty handed than shoot anything smaller. I do not plan on coming back here to engage in anything nasty ever again. I'm simply too old and have too little time to waste in such endeavors. If people are so weak as to be part of that rude internet culture, they can have it. Its a shame they were not raised with a strong father in their lives and if they were raised with a strong father figure, I'm quite certain those fathers would be ashamed of so-called internet culture and the weak people that cave to it.

 

[Flbt]

@Flbt - maybe it was just a Gut Shot….and a fragment struck the Shoulder??

The shot was to the shoulder. The entrance was in the high should on the left side the exit hole was still in the high shoulder and was about as big as my fist. No way a fragment did that
There was no hole in on the side anywhere but the high shoulder shot.
That is how I know it was not a gut shot with a fragment hitting the shoulder.

 

[BJH65]

Well, thank you, but I am busy and this forum just left a very bad taste in my mouth.

Hi Tim,

Enjoy your videos and have been long a time user of your ammo for over 20 years. You strike me as someone who says what they mean and means what they say. Those are pretty good attributes I think. Good luck on your upcoming elephant hunt.

Brendon

 

[Tradmark]

Tim, i am the guy that trsted the extended 460sw dangerous game solids from a bfr for you. Thank you for making the single best dangerous game pistol and lever gun rounds. The internet is mean and nasty. Not right but it is what it is. Just throw punches back.

 

[RedTag]

Thank you. Life is short and is to be enjoyed and do to that philosophy, I will not be back here. Far too many rude folks that simply want to take jabs and yet they know nothing and were not there. Never mind, that I did not post this video here. Someone took it off my personal site and posted it. My time is far too short to waste on people like this.

You should kill your next buff with a poison meatball

 

[grand veneur]

Folks, the ignorant (flat out wrong misread of the camera angle) and rude comments on this forum, mostly by folks that cannot tell what happened, will keep me from ever posting anything here ever again. I did not post this video here to start with, someone else, that I do not know, did that. If you feel good by inaccurately blasting another human, you should reconsider. That buff was fatally hit 5 times out of six shots, but the shooters angle was not the camera angle. I hunt these buffalo alone with no PH and have killed about 40 of them, with numerous rifles. This buff did not want to die, which is why I posted the video on my site, not this site. I found him to be anomalous and that is interesting to me. I've killed others with the 600 Nitro and they died easily. I've also killed a pot full of plains game with the 600 Nitro. They are easy for me to hit with, off hand. I own three of them and actually hunt with them...imagine that. Some of you folks should be deeply ashamed of your ignorant rudeness, but I am not surprised at some of the crap humans do. Carry on

Your outrage is understandable, but when you post a video like this, especially on a public channel like YouTube, you have to expect that a lot of people would look at it and that some negative comments are following. It is true that only you know the exact course of the hunt, but those who watch your video interpret what they see, and what one see on this video tends the viewer to interpret. I myself also could not make much sense of the various sequences. Since I don't know you, I thought that all perhaps could be just a fake. This video should have been edited before it was released and then it might have conveyed what it should, meant the poor working of 600 NE bullets on this buffalo.

 

[PerH]

We will be hunting the north central part of Bots. I think on the Zambian border. Looking for only 70 lb and up tusks. I would more than happily go home empty handed than shoot anything smaller. I do not plan on coming back here to engage in anything nasty ever again. I'm simply too old and have too little time to waste in such endeavors. If people are so weak as to be part of that rude internet culture, they can have it. Its a shame they were not raised with a strong father in their lives and if they were raised with a strong father figure, I'm quite certain those fathers would be ashamed of so-called internet culture and the weak people that cave to it.

Very good to see you here Mr Sundles , me and my lady bingewatxhed your episodes on YT . She was as hooked as I was , then the YT ghost struck the first time .


Anyway , Hunter Habib is one very good hunter and person , read his post . Especially about the Bengal Tiger .

 

[PerH]

The other video of the Ambush Buffalo was
very telling in how when the moments turn around unexpectedly , one need to be calm and have as large cartridge as one can use .

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Interesting Mr. Ontario. How many head of dangerous game have you killed with big doubles?????? In close range "crunch" situations, two fast shots have kept me alive....where a magazine rifle would have me dead......have you been there and done that? I think people are big talkers and small thinkers. Unless you have tons of experience, it is best to listen and not talk.

Someone here quoted Boddington, accurately I presume, as having shot a hundred buffalo and not charged once. Hmmm.

I have seen multiple videos of nimrods fast firing their double rifles too quickly, second shot goes wild, and then left holding an empty rifle they're trying to reload on the run. While I don't own a double rifle, I do own a break open O/U shotgun that I occasionally use at the range. It is not quickly reloaded standing at a station. And walking around with the thing broken open (required at the range when not shooting) is awkward to say the least. I cannot imagine running with one broken open and trying to stuff ammo in the barrels while trying to watch where I'm going ... and where the angry buffalo is going. I have cycled my magazine rifle on the run many times. No problem. I don't have to look at my gun to load the chamber or fiddle with ammo in my fingers while trying to hang onto something bent in half. I don't have to be charged by a buffalo to know how much more awkward it is to get off more than two shots with a double rifle. And, as your autopsy confirms, it can take up to five mortally located rounds from even a big fat double rifle to dispatch a buffalo.

I hunt a lot of geese which admittedly are not buffalo. But I don't hunt them with my O/U. Very often I need the third shot for followup, having hit the bird hard with first two rounds. Formerly I hunted exclusively with pump action until fragile retinas compelled me to switch to a heavier semiautomatic. I can reload my bolt rifles almost as quickly as the old 870 shotgun. And for both guns it is not necessary to take my eyes off the game while reloading. I shot this gemsbuck incoming on a gallop at less than thirty yards ... twice ... through the heart ... with my scoped 30-06 03A3 Springfield. Only two shots. A double rifle MAY have fired faster but it could not have been any more accurate. And four more rounds were still left in the magazine if needed.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

We will be hunting the north central part of Bots. I think on the Zambian border. Looking for only 70 lb and up tusks. I would more than happily go home empty handed than shoot anything smaller. I do not plan on coming back here to engage in anything nasty ever again. I'm simply too old and have too little time to waste in such endeavors. If people are so weak as to be part of that rude internet culture, they can have it. Its a shame they were not raised with a strong father in their lives and if they were raised with a strong father figure, I'm quite certain those fathers would be ashamed of so-called internet culture and the weak people that cave to it.

My dad didn't raise an internet influencer. I've been a lot of things in my life: teacher, policeman, firefighter, truck driver, crane operator, animal packer, surveyor, historian, editor, park ranger, and a few others I've forgotten. I was always able to hold my head up high. Dad was not nearly as ubiquitous and I think he sorta enjoyed living vicariously through my many career adventures. He died before the internet was filled with influencers but I know he would have been disappointed if I'd gone that route. Or TV evangelist. About the same thing back in those days.

 

[Philip Glass]

I've killed many cape buffalo with the TSX and it works well as you stated. However, Barnes does not make the TSX in .62 caliber.

Maybe Someday Barnes will make it. Sorry this thread went this way. I, like you, have never seen anything like this buffalo's lack of reaction. If you hunt long enough you see stuff! Maybe I missed it but exactly which bullets were used?

 

[Hunter-Habib]

Maybe Someday Barnes will make it. Sorry this thread went this way. I, like you, have never seen anything like this buffalo's lack of reaction. If you hunt long enough you see stuff! Maybe I missed it but exactly which bullets were used?

900Gr Shock Hammer
900Gr Cutting Edge Bullets Safari Solids

 

[Fordy]

Gday
Ok guys I’ll state what your seeing is lack of velocity & drop weight & increase speed & watch the difference occur & be wary of some pill designs as they are not what is advertised

You’ll see that in the heart shots as it will be like this

Not this

Yes no tough critters withstand that first picture for long & watch the critter reaction difference of a hole in the heart vrs blown up


Cheers