Great buffalo video …. Lessons learned

[Scott CWO]

But getting in two immediate follow up shots where you are standing does. They were likely moving over to put in a proper insurance shot when it charged. I doubt anyone thought it was actually needed though. I’d think everyone in that group gave it a lot of thought what they’d do differently after it happened.

Immediate sure. After that though, I would have went left to get a visual on the vitals, not to the right or straight at it. As was said in the video later, it’s the dead ones that kill you. This buffalo went down quickly but never really quit moving. I’m guessing that they figured it was hurt more than it really was because it went down so fast.

 

[Philip Glass]

I’m not sure why pulling the back trigger first would have helped. The issue is he didn’t switch triggers. I’ve shot tens of thousands or rounds through double trigger shotguns including at competitive pigeon shoots where a quick second shot is critical. Other than in a few hunting situations where I want to hit the tighter chokes barrel and a few rounds of alley shooting back to front for practice, I’ve always pulled the front trigger first. The hand slides quickly to the second trigger under recoil rather than having to reset in the opposite direction of the recoil.

You don't understand because you "have shot tens of thousands of rounds through Double trigger shotguns". You are highly proficient with double triggers. Hardly anyone else has. When a person has spent 50 years shooting a single trigger gun it is hard to change and especially be proficient when your life depends on it. I bought a junk Brazilian made 12g OU Double trigger to shoot dove with for practice. It's hard to learn. There is a problem that needs a solution. You have one solution that is great but requires years of practice. My solution is to find that back trigger first then on the follow up I'm just reaching out for a trigger and finding the first easily. To each his own.

 

[Russ16]

You don't understand because you "have shot tens of thousands of rounds through Double trigger shotguns". You are highly proficient with double triggers. Hardly anyone else has. When a person has spent 50 years shooting a single trigger gun it is hard to change and especially be proficient when your life depends on it. I bought a junk Brazilian made 12g OU Double trigger to shoot dove with for practice. It's hard to learn. There is a problem that needs a solution. You have one solution that is great but requires years of practice. My solution is to find that back trigger first then on the follow up I'm just reaching out for a trigger and finding the first easily. To each his own.

My question is why is it easier to remember to switch triggers when pulling the back first? I agree that practicing with double triggers is important we are on the same page there.

When shooting a single trigger shotgun my finger never looks for the trigger between shots so if I’m used to a single trigger gun I don’t understand how pulling the back trigger first will help you remember to switch.

If anyone wants to get proficient with a double trigger gun buy a decent double trigger 20 gauge and spend 3 days shooting doves in Argentina. 4-5 thousand rounds and you’ll never forget to switch again.

 

[skydiver386]

You don't understand because you "have shot tens of thousands of rounds through Double trigger shotguns". You are highly proficient with double triggers. Hardly anyone else has. When a person has spent 50 years shooting a single trigger gun it is hard to change and especially be proficient when your life depends on it. I bought a junk Brazilian made 12g OU Double trigger to shoot dove with for practice. It's hard to learn. There is a problem that needs a solution. You have one solution that is great but requires years of practice. My solution is to find that back trigger first then on the follow up I'm just reaching out for a trigger and finding the first easily. To each his own.

Muscle memory is a two edged sword.

When the shooter switched from the bolt gun to the double, my instinct told me that was asking for trouble.

I've shot bolt guns from the age of about 13 with a Marlin 22mag, then progressed to bolt Match 22's, and center-fire bolt guns for hunting and rifle competition.

Although I love seeing you guys hunting with double rifles, they just aren't for me because I know what my brain and hands are going to do without a conscious thought. Operating a double in a situation like this will probably never be as easy as a bolt gun, and I'd likely fumble the trigger and the reload on a double.

The attempted brain shot was the first issue, the raking shots in the back were the second, and going from a bolt gun to a Double rifle was the third. Not bashing the guy to hard though, as I hope I'd do as well under the same circumstances.