Bob Nelson convinced me - 35 Whelen

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Bobs head is now swelled to the point his hat will not fit

@rdog
Lucky my hat is one size fits all.

 

[HuntingGold]

Tomorrow I will fool with seating depth.
62 gr CFE223 in front of the old Nosler 225 gr Ballistic Tips. I have some 200 grain Hammer Hunters on their way to try out as well.

 

[CBH Australia]

Nice, I like the scenery in the photo too.

 

[CJW]

Did you ever get the other stock finished?

Nice looking rifle.

 

[HuntingGold]

@CJW I have not yet finished the walnut stock. I think I have 3 stock projects in various stages.

 

[gbflyer]

I haven’t tried the cfe223. Of the 3 Whelens I’ve chambered, I’ve found none to be choosy in the accuracy dept. if you are getting a lot of primer flow it’s probably due to the clearance Remington uses for the firing pin hole.

Hope you like the Hammer Hunters. My .338 Federal loves the 186gr Shock Hammers.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

@CJW I have not yet finished the walnut stock. I think I have 3 stock projects in various stages.

@hunting Gold
Load up some Hornady 250gr round nose and try them. They should group the same at 100. The amount of hurt they put on game is unreal. I will call you to give you a good load.
Bob

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

I think I mentioned in another post that we are sorting this out. I've been getting high pressure at starting loads. Smashing the snot out of primers, but without sticky bolt lift.
We have checked headspace and about everything that can be measured or poked to no avail.
At the moment, I'm charging 62.o grains of CFE223 and getting just under 2900 fps.
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I haven’t tried the cfe223. Of the 3 Whelens I’ve chambered, I’ve found none to be choosy in the accuracy dept. if you are getting a lot of primer flow it’s probably due to the clearance Remington uses for the firing pin hole.

Hope you like the Hammer Hunters. My .338 Federal loves the 186gr Shock Hammers.

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A relatively frequent complaint with M700 and Accuracy International actions (and others) are cratered primers with factory made ammunition. The root cause of this is from excessive clearance between the striker and the hole through the bolt face. When fired, the primer cup flows into the void...

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[HuntingGold]

Thank you @gbflyer and @Wishfulthinker580

Those are points that have not been examined. Had a going away party for my youngest tonight and there's a bit of beer in my system, however my interest has been piqued. I'll follow up on this tomorrow.

 

[steve white]

Just think how cool you will feel when you step up to real guns....

I wouldn't own A .35 at all. Three times the bullet selection in .338, and .375. Buying a .35 is like when you're young, and want to ride that 250cc dirt bike that the big kids do, but settle for a 150cc and try to pretend it's it's same anyway. A .35 is almost a .375, but it will never get any closer.....it will always, ALMOST be good enough....hehehe oh, hey Bob, didn't see you there.

That being your criteria, you would have to naysay the .318 as well, would you not? Seems a lot of folk in Africa were pretty sold on it at one time...

 

[steve white]

Bob, I knew that I had missed at least one name BUT I was quickly typing before going downstairs for my evening meal. Yes, the Howas are accurate and reliable. They are not cheap rifles. They are good rifles that are available at good prices due to high production volumes. Howa has built up volume by maintaining quality over decades, something that a number of gun company boards seem to have ignored.
I nearly bought a 1500 Mini rifle recently, in 7.62x39 but I came upon a minter second hand Izhevsk Bars (snow leopard) rifle at a very good price. That rifle supposedly has a 1-12” twist chrome lined barrel but it is possibly a 1-320mm (1-12.6”) barrel because the Dragunov rifles were originally made with that twist rate and it would have made more sense to use the original Dragunov barrel mandrels/buttons than to create new 1-12” tooling.

My gun making buddy once said that steel being turned off a Shilen barrel curled off like butter, but trying the same with a Howa, it popped and gave indication of real hardness...he thought that was positive by the way.

 

[steve white]

@hunting Gold
I can see that barrel coming off and a nice 26" 25 ought six barrel in your future.
Bob

the 25'06 is a midget cannon...really kills things

 

[steve white]

@Scrumbag
Superior to what, a Neanderthal. At least Australia has the OLDEST civilization in the world.
Bo

the superior hemisphere is getting bit crowded for my tastes, at least in Texas...

 

[gbflyer]

My gun making buddy once said that steel being turned off a Shilen barrel curled off like butter, but trying the same with a Howa, it popped and gave indication of real hardness...he thought that was positive by the way.

Shilen heat treats in such a way that they are softer. I believe the intent is a better honing quality of the bore. The trade off is the throat erodes faster. Hart and Lilja are a bit the same, however I have found them superior to Shilen. I find the less expensive blanks to machine “harder”. I am no metallurgist, just first hand experience making a few chips.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

the superior hemisphere is getting bit crowded for my tastes, at least in Texas...

@steve white
Superior to what. That's the thing I love to have a laugh about with the good ol US of A. Y'all have the world series in some sports but only the USA plays. In Australia the world is bigger when we have a world sport.

Australia has always been Superior. We invented Bundy RUM and Vegemite as well as the pick up the we call a Ute.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

the 25'06 is a midget cannon...really kills things

@steve white
That's why I love the fast 25s and the 35s. They just plain work no fuss no bother

 

[rdog]

@steve white
That's why I love the fast 25s and the 35s. They just plain work no fuss no bother

I think Bob believes that a 25/06 will almost penetrate the frontal Armour on a Russian tank!

 

[CoElkHunter]

@steve white
That's why I love the fast 25s and the 35s. They just plain work no fuss no bother

Then, what are the SLOW 25s and 35s used for? LOL

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I think Bob believes that a 25/06 will almost penetrate the frontal Armour on a Russian tank!

@rdog
I may think that but at least I know the 243 is battling to penetrate a rotten tomato.
@CoElkHunter
A slow 25 and 35 will still be use

Then, what are the SLOW 25s and 35s used for? LOL

@CoElkHunter
SLOW 25s and 35s are used for the same game just a bit shorter distance.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

 

[CBH Australia]

Can I do multiple Ha ha emojis on a like????