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Not exactly what you think-
I’m not a military guy though I am surrounded by many who are-nor am I an artillery fancier. But I saw an episode on the history channel that was simply fascinating and deserves a brief spotlight-the cannone da 149/23 of creste Croce.
Human sacrifice and the need to protect their freedoms placed it atop the Italian alps and modern warming trends have exposed it after 100 years of silence.
The Italians placed it there to protect themselves from invading Austrians/Hungarians. There are a couple reasons the hippo gun was used despite being outdated and surpassed by more modern heavy artillery. The cannons sheer size-weight and mass earned it a mammalian nickname of monster proportions. Firing a 67 pound shell to a distance of over 5.5 miles it had a reach no more modern cannon at that time could accomplish.
Lacking aircraft capable of moving a hippopotamus dead or alive, metal or meat requires massive amounts of pure man power. 200 men, mostly military and some engineers took most of 7 months to drag the obstinate beast up the treacherous mountain to one point, arriving in April and then a better position in June. Originally it arrived at 5180 ft then was broken down into bite size chunks, dragged by men with presumably frost bitten fingers to 8317 ft on heavy wooden sleds.
The wooden tread wheels are still well preserved but the recoil ramps have long since been removed or lost.
Of course after the conflict had ended, no one was volunteering to drag an outdated hippopotamus gun back to the valley floor and eventually the glaciers locked it firmly in history. An amazing piece of history with a story as big as it’s name!
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After all that effort I hope someone got to fire that thing!
 
It was an interesting choice to drag 8,000 feet up a mountain. By 1916, when it was deployed on the Cresta Croce, it was an obsolete design. As you note, for a 150mm class gun, it had very short range. Powder charges were fairly anemic because the 1880's era design had no recoil mechanism. It had much more in common with a 12 pounder Napoleon than a French .75. In deployment, it was more like a large mortar than a early 20th century field gun. What made it useful in the mountains was its ability to lob shells with high angle fire, dropping them over ridges and into nearby valleys and specifically the German positions on the reverse slope of a neighboring mountain the name of which I have forgotten. I don't blame them for leaving it there.
 
I had to read wikipedia on this gun.
It states the range of about 9 km.

Indeed, a shorter range, mortar-like weapon, when compared to other examples of artillery of the era. The first that comes to mind is German "Paris gun", of 130 km range, same war.

Two extremes.

It could indicate shortage of guns in Italy for ww1.

When guns are in short supply during a war, then anything that shoots come handy.
In Croatian war for independence in 90-ies, yugo mausers k98 (m48), submachines guns Shpagin 7.62, Thompson submachineguns 45 acp, schmeissers mp40, and even tanks t34 were used.
 
n Croatian war for independence in 90-ies, yugo mausers k98 (m48), submachines guns Shpagin 7.62, Thompson submachineguns 45 acp, schmeissers mp40, and even tanks t34 were used.

Syria and now Ukraine.

On the Balkans 88mm FLAK-guns were brought into combat. And in Syria the STG44 were seen in significant numbers.
 
Well it may have only lobbed 65 # shells 5.5 miles but I have no desire to be in that radius. Morters have a place in their realm.
 
It reminds me of Star Trek, "Specter of the Gun". Spoke handles a .45 Colt Peacemaker and logically remarks, "Crude but effective".

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