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@Odinsraven replied, hope that helps. Yeah, to sum it up: affordable and reliable guns. Not very accurate, nor pleasant to look at... but they work. Also, not available in dangerous game chamberings. People has to remember that most of the cost on bespoke double rifles is about time, ammo and...

So... someone bumped an old thread. Well, I ain't gonna bash on other people guns. I too have been dreaming about my first DR for so long before having the chance to get my hands on one... let me just put it this way: I wanted my first DR to be "proper", and you pay what you get. Never heard...

And I am relieved to say I got rid of the 682. I did because I wanted an O&U shotgun more suitable for hunting, but I would have done the same even if I just kept shooting clays. So, yeah... loss of faith, but at last ain't got regrets about my purchase anymore.

Does one need to bring his gun and ammos for the course / hunt? Or are these things provided by the school?

Seriously thinking about this and anyway, you should think about doing this at least once every year Checking flight availability and prices from my Country right now to get myself overall cost idea. Where should one drop? Johannesburg?

Got me a pair of Rangers after I entered a Christmas giveaway without success. I have yet to test them out on the field but just trying them on these were among some of the most comfortable shoes I've ever had. Yeah, a bit wide looking on the toes but it works. Fit true to size, at least to me...

I'd say I lack experience, Sir. Anyway, good to know the provenance of the game you'll be hunting it's clear, I think it can make a great difference in overall experience. I believe hunting on public land is more true of an experience. Still, I don't understand... even if true that most...

I think I can answer this one. There is this nice book, "White Hunters" by Brian Herne. Apparently, scostman Alan Black could be the OEM PH. At some point some british aristocrat hired him and a somali hunter to guide a safari. Since Alan surname was the same english word for the skin tone of...

Thank you people for the answers. BRICKBURN provided a ton of material. I think I see your point, the outfitter is there for a reason: you give him money, he cares for all the bureaucracy and legal aspects of the thing. So... it's not completely clear to foreign hunters -and many don't even...

I wonder if anyone can tell me more about the legal aspects of african hunting, I mean... I know Africa is a continent of many different nations... but For those nations where legal hunting is an option, how does it work? Does the government sell tags for managing the population directly to...

Howdie, I'm in just to tell I am still looking for these books. Doesn't matter if brand new or second hand, either soft or rigid cover would be ok, don't care if signed or not... looking for lowest possible price, possibly shipping within EU to avoid oversea fees and custom duties. Hit me up...

Thanks to all your notions on this subject I feel relieved already. I just have 50 rounds handloaded by someone else at the moment and still have to get me the reloading equipment to inspect each handload by myself. I don't have fired brass to test at the moment neither I trust doing the...

Can't quite remember anymore... I am around guns since I was a kid, at some point somebody must have told me to be gentle when closing break action guns. Anyway, if I close this Merkel vigorously, the third bite locks just fine most of the times after some lubrication and exercise. And by...

I always thought of third-bite locks to be a precious add-on to "regular" break open gun builds. I never thought of them like yet another possible issue while reloading the firearm on a dangerous game hunt, but... I recently got me a Merkel 140A double rifle, gun comes with a Greener crossbolt...

Unfortunately I still have to build me a handloading station. I ain't had the need to go handloading previously. Now of course the price of a couple of .470 factory load boxes are gonna cover all the costs from press, dies and whatever. I am looking into RCBS Rockchucker #IV Supreme and stuff...

Howdie, recently I got me my first double rifle. The deal included some 50 left over ammos from previous safaris. As far as I can tell these ain't factory loads, so I would like to double check what am I going to shoot. First of all, I ain't got any .470 reloading equipment nor huge kinetic...

Only record found on Amazon, shipping available to IT. Still pricey, way outta my league for this book, but thanks for the good call.

So, it all started when I was a just kid, watching The Lost World: Jurassic Park with my dad. I thought it was funny for one of the movie characters expecting to go after a T-Rex hunt with what seemed to my inexperienced eyes just your ordinary grandpa's 12 gauge side by side shotgun. So my...

Howdie, I am looking for Mark Sullivan's books "Fear no death" and "Death and double rifles" somewhere around Europe. Second hand lecture is good to me too. Unfortunately, buying directly on his website would cost me ridiculously too much shipping. Please let me know guys, and have a nice day.

It would be great, I mean... having the process written down is cool and everything, but actually seeing it done should make it easier for newbies to repeat, also while recording there might be some tips and tricks coming to mind and worth to share

I think so. First of all, there is slight sleeve. And then some powders won't fill the brass enough, requiring some filler.

Not hard to believe, a box of 5 Kynoch .470 NE solids in Italy retails for about 100€ at the moment, so... we're talking about similar cartridges.

Like I said, I find surprising there ain't no video around this media platform showing the steps required to reload the most popular double rifle big game hunting cartridge in the world today. By reading around the forum, it seems reloading is the only way to keep down the costs of practicing...

3D print yourself some!

So, just to give an epilogue to the thread... I've read all the advice of yours but probably had already made my mind up to get that .470 in the first place. Too good of a deal to let it go at the price. I've yet to find a purpose to the gun now, but I choose to sort this out later on. I'll...

Three main reasons: can't find many second hand DR chambering .375 here, ammo is scarce and pricey yet delivers performance very similar to 9,3x74R, and so... even if legal for dangerous game, most PH won't consider this cartridge enough to bring me elephant hunting. Some Hornady factory load...

I said in a later post, both DR are Merkel 140... so, top notch gunmaker. It's not just a random maker's .470 NE, quality issues should not be of concern. I would never touch the OEM barrel regulation if I not have to... I want the gun to shoot well full power cartridges, reduced load would be...

Just like @SFRanger7GP wrote, that’s the exact situation: I can grab a Merkel 140 in .470 NE for cheaper than other listings in 9,3x74R (surely more abused too, I am speaking of second hand market). At the moment I am really prone towards the .470 NE, I am not an handloader but few people...

I like double rifles. Let’s say I could grab a .470 NE double rifle for the same amount or even less money than the same gun from the same manufacturer in 9,3x74R. I’d love, but it’s not into plans at the moment, to go to Africa (out of budget, for what I want). So the .470 NE would be just a...

When I started clay shooting, my father, who had been into regional and national trap shooting competition with very positive results for long time, told me to buy as my starter weapon either a Beretta 680 series or a Perazzi. Anything else wasn't worth to be considered in his opinion. At that...

Greetings to you.

Agree with previous comments... social media, mobile phones and disneyfication of animal kingdom in the end will overcome through natural selection all the efforts and precautions taken by western civiled countries to not leave anyone behind, idiots included.

Good day, I am here to resume this thread because time has passed and some of the previous link ain't working anymore. As of mid 2024, I am looking for some recommended Youtube channel about Africa hunting, please let me know what you like to watch.

Never thought I could get so many useful tips just in my presentation topic, even before starting doing my research around the other forum sections. For instance... ... never thought of this as a possibility, and actually semplify things a lot. Thanks. I understand this and agree. Even...

Roma caput mundi, or at least once upon a time. Yeah, I already had the pleasure to stumble upon Phil Giordano, in this thread... he seems to be from Rome too, so, yeah... it's a small world we live in :)

Thank you people for the warm welcome. It sounds like a brilliant advice, still I feel it's too early for me thou. I am totally unprepared: - First and foremost, I have no experience in hunting whatsoever - Then I wouldn't even know where to start with papers and bureaucracy - Also most of...

Hello everybody, I am a clay and target shooter from Italy. I am not a hunter, but since my sporting license will expire soon, I am thinking of applying for a hunting license in the next future. In my family we have a long bloodline of hunters, but unfortunately I moved away from my birthplace...