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@Hunt anything - the reason Pheasant were successfully transplanted into the U.S with “minimal” effort —- they released LIVE CAPTURE WILD BIRDS ——Not generation after generation of PEN Raised stock. Today, releasing a Pheasant and expecting it to survive is like letting your Husky go off and...

@Nyati - You forgot BIRDS, yeah, flying birds behind a fence ? And Kangaroo “High hopping” over the Fence. No one spends the money & effort on a High Fence (and maintaining it) Unless that Fence works well - damn near perfect - to keep the animals they profit from INSIDE. Hunt high fence or...

@grand veneur - many Women will agree with You (same as No reason to be larger then a B cup)

@SRvet - Agree with the exception of “I AM IMPRESSED by the Caliber”. A .600NE doesn’t even need to be fired to be IMPRESSIVE. And the very few Men that can handle it (Women can sit this one out) are to be admired.

@Vinageguy - you reminded me of another reason why I hate those big pheasant “Drives” —- all the shooting at ONE bird and multiple Hunters yelling “I Got it”. Regarding “slamming a car door”, the first time I saw that was hunting in Kansas in 1993 (back when Kansas still had Wild Pheasants) -...

@grand veneur - OK, maybe my Land Sale was a poor example — so I’ll yield to your Example with the add that it’s Not being Honest, it’s “deceit”, deliberate omission of relevant information, creates a false impression, lack of full disclosure, ===== a LIE or very close to it. Now, if you can’t...

@1dirthawker: I think you’re right - He just Missed and missed a lot — edited the video too. So if that “edited” version also shows only the “Best” shooting —- it’s REALLY BAD Shooting !!

@Rolly - AGREE and I’ve missed plenty - including Buffalo in TZ with my .470NE, I think I started “flinching” and was shooting over top of the buff….as hard as it was to admit missing a 50 yrd shot on standing buffalo —— I didn’t blame the ammo !! The guy in that video just can’t shoot that...

@Carnivore hunter - poor shooting, regardless of caliber, will never kill an animal. I also think he missed…and missed a lot - maybe 1/2 his shots hit nothing but air. When you watch the video, the first shot the guy takes knocks him backwards and down the hill ! I’m guessing he “Flinched” a...

@Vintageguy - never fooled and most guys with good dogs that have hunted Wild pheasant can often (not always) tell the difference. Not on a single flush and maybe not on those Block & Drive hunts…. Best example of “Wild” is when you drive up to a remote 500+ acre stubble cornfield, no one is...

@grand veneur - in the context of what we are discussing (hunting High Fence “self sustaining vs. Supplementing”) You wrote “Not revealing your Business practices is Not dishonesty” —- ? Omitting relevant information is deceptive, getting very close to a “lie” and if the client asked the...

@Wishfulthinker580 - I’ve been told by several PHs both from SA and in TZ that “Every” operator in SA does some “supplementing” or Put & Take (buying and Adding game animals) on their properties. I don’t have first hand knowledge but it makes sense to see that would be required and especially...

@Hunt anything - what are you referring to regarding “farmed whitetail” …”where their only impediments are how far their legs will take them”? Do you mean farmed whitetail with NO fences?

@grand veneur - does a “Fence” make a difference or distinction? Is there a difference between “raising” animals in an enclosure or captive breeding program and then Releasing into the Wild —- a completely UNfenced area - where they may roam wherever they want, and are exposed to all other...

@Hunter-Habib @PerH @Hunter-Habib - Regardless of what your thoughts are on Mark Sullivan (and I included Hunter Habib on this for a reason) WATCH this video for the first few minutes as he shoots a buffalo very close on a full charge. Pay close attention to his LEFT Hand and his “fingers” as...

@Safari Dave - not sure I understand you point? Or if you are just venting frustration which I can relate too (and agree with) as every generation sees less & less wild land to hunt on. But your post does not seem related to the OP and Video he shared - “native people” wearing “Nike & Adidas”...

@Vintageguy - good chart and interesrting. I know with Whitetail deer their Home range varies greatly and bucks may spend most of their time on only one sq mile (640 acres) and many will require less then 1/2 of that depending on cover and food. However, during the Rut whitetail bucks can...

@375Fox Agree, I haven’t noticed anyone “arguing” about anything, just a man that operates a hunting operation is SA providing a Behind-the-Scenes look at how it’s done.

@375Fox - thanks for posting this video, very insightful into the business end of hunting in SA. I thought the man relaying how he operates his Camp was candid, detailed, and seemed very comfortable with sharing “how” a high fence operation works - including describing what ‘self sustaining’...

@375Fox - Now, you wait until NOW to declare you are NOT in the “MS Cult”? (As though your 50+ previous Posts didn’t make that OBVIOUS???). Glad we got that cleared up —- it’s one thing we agree on. [actually we agree on a lot - just Not in this thread]

@JimP - the number of things “a Child can swallow” and “get in trouble” includes every item on Earth under 2”. More kids will choke swallowing “pennies & marbles” then be poisoned by batteries —— do we Lock Up our pocket change? This is the kind of mentality (and I don’t mean this towards...

@ftrovato - your comment “if this saves just one child’s life” is the EXACT same quote used by Gun Control groups everytime they want to pass additional laws for Gun/Ammo restrictions —— are You “fine with that”? If everything that is “dangerous” to kids needs to be Key Locked Away (household...

@rookhawk - CONGRATULATIONS on finding a way to bring RELIGION into this thread AND You were able to include 3 different religions at that !! Now we can enjoy even more self righteous experts on Ethics AND Religion ——ALL in one Thread``. Maybe there is a “Divine” presence taking over because...

@Bob Nelson 35Whelen - you’re spending so much time around, near, looking at, and now reloading for the .243 …basically it’s Now hard to think You don’t own & hunt with one? It’s like you’re “swearing” to the Father of your Prom date that You “only got to 3rd base” BUT she’s Pregnant —- yet...

@Bonk - Aviation “sayings” don’t apply to Hunting ie: the saying “There’s Old Pilots and Bold Pilots but there are NO “Old Bold Pilots”. Which is Not True in regards to MS - He’s Bold AND Old….and the only thing that Crashes are Brain Shot Buff..

@Bob Nelson 35Whelen —- Bob, did I read your post correctly YOU hand loaded some ammo in .243?? (“95gn ballistic tips for a mate..”?). You seem to be “flirting” a lot with the .243 and you know where that can lead — Next you’ll be hunting with one and that leads to buying one……I’m gonna be...

@Doug3006 - Your points are ALL well stated and I Agree….but You “mentioned” Suppressors are UGLY iin 3 of your 6 Points —— Why didn’t you mention that in ALL 6 points???

@samson7x thanks Sam for your insightful post, I don’t hate Suppressors and have used them for specific applications (night hunting etc..) as previously described. Others like them for many uses and those born after 1980 might feel they “need” them…they are new to the Hunting scene and will...

@crossone - I’m also surprised and seems that the focus is now more on Suppressors then the rifle itself. But it is consistent with many that prefer plastic stocks over wood, matt black steel over blued, stainless over “everything else”, and “need” a Magnum to kill a whitetail. I have enjoyed...

@samson7x - if You “like the look” of Suppressors then you’re gonna LOVE the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue with ROSIE O'Donnell on the Cover !!

@Hillbilly Marine - I Agree, no significant advantage using a .300 Winbag over a .270 so if someone feels the need to go bigger - then GO BIGGER and jump to at least a .338 (my least favorite magnum) or better —a .375 H&H. Then, after you FLINCH and miss or wound — drop back down to a .270 and...

@375Fox - good post and advice: objective, relays experience, and is “well balanced”.

@M70375! - no issues with theft, only stupidity - TSA Agent took my rifle out of case to “check and see it was unloaded” (I had already removed Bolt and strapped it in next to rifle) then he could Not get rifle back into case and close it…..almost missed my flight. Another time needed to call...

@codofish - tinnitus is why I wear ear plugs, works great and doesn’t make my Rifle look like a Grenade Launcher. But I’m getting your point and many agree with You - Cans are increasing in popularity and some already believe they are essential, I’m waiting to start seeing them at Sporting...

@samson7x - I want the opinion of others (that are enamored with Suppressors) to explain “Why” would anyone cut down a barrel - likely affecting rifle performance - of a good rifle to accommodate a Suppressor? If that worried about barrel length, balance, awkwardness etc… consider Not adding a...

@M70375! – Why? Why would you waste your time and possibly have an issue with TSA/Airline and your “Invention”? >>>> Plus, Now you risk someone “stealing your idea” and getting their own PATENT on it !! <<<<

@375Fox - I Agree with you, if someone wants a significant increase in power - then increase bullet diameter & weight as well (get your money’s worth!!)….get into the .40 cal range and pick out something you can still handle and shoot accurately (accuracy is Always most important). I like the...

@The Gamshunter - if you shoot your .270 accurately and are confident with it then That’s what I would use ! Any well constructed 150gr bullet will penetrate deeply and combined with proper “bullet placement” - always the most important thing - you should have a great Hunt.

@Ridge Runner - I’ve had a couple of issues with my eyes the past 10 years and that’s why I react very seriously too anything that affects vision: ocular pressure, double vision, blurred vision etc…. You’re right about Virginia ERs Not attending to Eye issue (a stick poked a small hole thru my...

@Ridge Runner - What did your Eye Doctor say? Don’t post again until you can answer that question —- your vision is too important to wait and you won’t get the answer needed from another post on AH. Ocular pressure (glaucoma) and other issues can be treated but once any loss of vision occurs...

@Ontario Hunter you can now add “Constitutional Scholar” to the Long list of What-You-are-Not.

@Hunt anything - Agree, the 2nd amendment has NOTHING to do with Hunting.

@analog_peninsula - you LOST ME (and many others) when you wrote “using California as an example” ——WHY would anyone use California as an example for ANYTHING?

@Red Leg - No Shot kills faster than a Brain Shot…Fast Death with the least suffering. There is No “right” answer on this thread, opinions have already been decided, no one is changing their mind. Someone just posted that this thread is “Asinine” and Yet they-keep-posting??

@Red Leg - but don’t you think the Brain Shots “end the mess they started” QUICKLY ?

@Hunter-Habib - that is helpful “context”, also confirms his excellent shooting ability even under “extreme pressure”…making Brain Shots on a charging animal with the consistency of a Skeet Shooter on low 7.

@NIGHTHAWK - is The Dog’s Name “Halibut” ? I don’t see any fish? It’s very much like most of My Fishing trips (a Nice Boat ride)!!

@DPHunter4570 - BIG BEAR and you know it’s BIG when the photo has the rifle In-the-foreground and the Bear still looks Big, NO “trick” photography needed (Hunter sitting far behind the Bear). The head is massive and if his ears were any further apart ——they’d be on his shoulders !! Also, you...

@Ruraldoc - Agree, older Smith’s (PreLock) usually have a smoother trigger - although some of the Smith “Custom Shop” revolvers are good. Smith was the only major revolver maker that added a ‘Key-Lock’ feature (20+ years ago) and I believe one of their reasons was to limit liability lawsuits if...

@mcaustin - I agree the Scandium revolvers are “Brutal” to shoot, they were made only to CARRY —-shoot RARELY and Never practice with….you’d develop a FLINCH so bad it would require a Psycho Therapy to recover from.