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A curious question. Has any one here ever actually seen a 6 bore Double rifle ? I have , to date only seen two 6 bore rifles : One was WW Greener's one of a kind 6 bore Cartridge Double rifle which Currently resides in Zimbabwe. The other was an old 6 Bore Muzzleloading rifle which fired a...

Get the Over Under. My shotgun is a 12 Bore Beretta (2.75 inch chamber ) with fixed chokes ( upper barrel modified choke , lower barrel Full choked ) . It was the very first gun l ever got ; gifted to me by my grandfather . It's bagged ALL manners of birds and Rabbits in the last 8 years . In...

I would highly recommend a 12 bore Holland and Holland Paradox Ball-and-Shot-gun if price is no object. It shoots 740 grain conical bullets and suitable for any soft skinned Game. The Dallas gun room of Holland and Holland has one for sale.

I ALWAYS have a shotgun in my battery for shooting for the pot. This is my trusty Beretta 12 Bore Over Under fixed choke shotgun ( 2.75 inch Chambers ) . Upper Barrel Modified Choke , lower barrel full choke. My battery has never been more than 3 guns ( usually l take two ) , but one of them...

Sure , Pondoro . l am inboxing you some photos . The .600 NE was from an American Gentleman , a Mr. Butch Searcy . I would not know the accurate history of the rifle , though .

Thank you so much for the informative post , Cal. That is a very impressive grouping you made ! The 4 Bore by Robert Hughes which you have , certainly is an impressive beast of a tool. . If money were no object , it certainly would make a nice accompaniment to the old l am having made .

Thank you , Pondoro . Do you have any idea which H&H catalog was the last to offer the .500/450 ? I know that the 1910 catalog still offered them.

Thank you so much . But l do believe it is a discontinued product as it has been out of stock for quite some time. Do you have any idea what year Holland and Holland stopped making rifles in the .500/450 Cordite caliber ? And why ?

No , sir. I'm from Bangladesh. I am a member of Dhaka Rifle Club ( Dhaka is the capital of Bangladesh ). If you ever come , let me know.

Well , Mr. Gunner , l am a member of a local shooting club . Our country used to be a British Colony less than 70 years ago. And a LOT of Vintage Double rifles and Mauser action Rifles are still used by many of our club members. Some were family heirlooms , passed down from Father to Son. Others...

I can only speak about the brands which l have tried : 1) Holland & Holland . Why : I had a chance to fire one of their .500/450 cordite Vintage Double rifles in 2015 , using handloads and they truly are a luxury gun. If l ever get the chance , l will gladly trade my .450 NE Rigby Double for...

Not a proper small bore double rifle , but none the less quite interesting . One of the members of our local Shooting Club owns this Westley Richards 28 Bore side by side shotgun. He inherited it from his father . Due to both barrels being bored Cylinder and Cylinder , it's owner uses home...

I am glad l could chip in. Over Unders are rather Under rated In my opinion.

Ha Ha . Oh , that . I am afraid l don't have any photos yet. I was still using a Nokia Flip phones in that time. I'm not very tech savvy and didn't buy a smart phone until this year ( Hell , l wasn't even a member of this forum until last week ) . But now that l do , you guys will constantly...

Not at all. I haven't gotten the 4 bore yet .

I actually got a chance to fire a fellow hunters Sabatti .450 Nitro Express Over Under Double Rifle a while back. It is the same caliber as the .450 NE Rigby Side by Side Double Rifle which l own . My humble observations are the following : 1) It shoots Extremely accurate ( I'll go so far as to...

Interestingly enough , l found this old advertisement online from J & W Tolley in the early 1890s . Apparently Tolley WAS offering a paradox style Ball- And - Shot gun in 4 Bore . I wonder if any were ever actually made though.

Why don't you compromise and choose the Caliber that's right between the .450/400 NE and the .470 NE : The .450 Nitro Express ? The only double rifle l own is a Vintage .450 Nitro Express Double Made by John Rigby . It is a beautiful weapon and l shoot Hornady Dangerous Game Solids for the...

Mr. Bill , you are 100 % right about the older guns firing 3 -3.5 ounce round balls. George P Sanderson , the only known hunter to use a 4 bore breech loading Smoothbore ball gun ( made by WW Greener ) said in his great book " Wild beasts of India " that his " 4 Bore " actually fired a ball...

Will Do , sir :)

Thank you so much for your advice , sir. Do you fire your round ball loads from rifled guns or Smoothbores ? And what caliber are they ?

Sir , l am so sorry if l sounded disrespectful . I didn't mean it. My own Grandfather is 75 and fires a 12 bore Holland and Holland Paradox gun with flawless accuracy without even flinching. What l meant was that the gentleman looks very frail. But as his shooting skills proved , appearances...

One of the elder gentlemen in our local shooting club , possesses an Anderson Wheeler Double Rifle in .303 caliber. It's the only gun he owns . Like Me , he is left handed. He has difficulty manipulating bolt action Rifles , since most bolt action Rifles are intended for right handed users (...

That's so unfortunate . I didn't know he died

PM sent and all clarified

Sir , l shall try to assess your questions in a chronological order. About my law degree. The one l have is from University of London external programmes . It lasts three years. LLB honors first year , LLB honors second year and LLB honors final year. Regarding the BRNO , as l mentioned earlier...

Your answer is very relieving , sir. Here , l was thinking that the reason my .450 NE double rifle by Rigby Heats up , was because it is a vintage gun , probably from an era when Steel barrel making wasn't as developed as it is now. It's the only double rifle l have , so l had no other way of...

You recommend federal over Hornady ? I have never seen a federal .450 NE load , sir

Yes . The law course is 3 years. I started first year in when l turned 17 . And l forgot to answer one of your questions . Here , we have Hornady and Federal ammunition as most popular , sir :)

Your theory is correct , sir . The bullet did Break , but it was a solid

Officially , that WAS the law. But there are MANY ways around that law . A lot of people here own a rifle AND a shotgun . I have licenses for two guns : The .450 NE and the 12 bore Beretta over under shotgun . Regarding the 4 bore Smoothbore l am getting , you have ways to get the license...

Could you recommend me some good brands for .450 NE ammunition ?

Sir , the part about the premium grade ammo you mentioned , is interesting. I also use Hornady Ammunition ( 480 grain Dangerous Game Solids ) for my .450 NE Rigby Double. Is it a bad brand ?

I faced a charge situation from a Cape Buffalo after my first shot from a .450 Nitro Express Rigby Double rifle . The second shot at 7 yards put it down . It was a miracle . I can never forget that day . Had the second shot failed to stop the beast , the only thing that could save me would be my...

I cannot speak of Merkel , but l know a little about the caliber . My best friend and hunting colleague uses a .450 /400 double rifle by Westley Richards . I had a chance to fire about 12 rounds through it. It is lighter and recoils less than my .450 NE double rifle made by Ribgy . I have seen...

Your gun has fixed ( non detachable locks ). Also check the barrels . These older rifles often have some of the rifling inside the barrels worn out . When you get the gun restored , if you plan to shoot it , start with really light loads as a caution. Then you can slowly kick things up. All in...

Hey , that's a really impressive grouping ! My Double Rifle is a .450 Nitro Express as well ( A vintage Rigby) . I use Hornady DGS ( Dangerous Game Solids ) for all my thick skinned game. The grouping is also good . I currently use a .275 Rigby Mauser bolt action rifle for my smaller game ...

Further reason to stick to my .450 Nitro Express instead of trying to use a 4 bore Smoothbore on those brutes

I often get to fire my Grandfather's 12 bore Paradox , sir. I just wanted a 4 bore , because of the RAW stopping power l thought those quarter pound projectiles would offer

Sir , that's exactly the problem. I tried getting one gun that could do both. I figured that since l already own two rifles and a shotgun , l could have a gun made which could serve both purposes. Then , l got the 4 bore. It will weigh 20 pounds and have 26 inch barrels. I knew from the...

They can be used legally in the UK , Bangladesh , all of Europe :) They are usually Fully choked though and used with AAA shot . In Bangladesh though , 12 bore is the universally used Calibre . Mine is a chokeless Smoothbore 4 bore for firing slugs or ball

Do smoothbores even fire conical bullets ? I thought they needed rifling to stabilize them ?

I am from Bangladesh. Luckily , most people in Bangladesh are very pro- hunting and we have yearly deer and duck seasons here . But my family is into the shipping business , so l got the travel the world a lot , before l became a lawyer and decided to settle down in my home land. I still visit...

Regarding the Cape Gun question , l assume you mean those doubles which have one rifled barrel and one Smoothbore barrel . I don't think anyone ever made a cape gun in 4 bore . Regarding Partially rifled barrels ( i.e like paradox guns ) , l do believe that the largest size ever made for a...

I agree with you , Sir. Paradox guns are infinitely more accurate than a Smoothbore . My grandfather currently uses a 12 bore Holland and Holland Paradox gun himself for deer. He had his one made in 2012

Which gun are you talking about , sir ? My 4 bore Smoothbore or my 12 bore shotgun ?

Hello , sir. To answer your question , Watson Brothers doesn't make a rifled 4 bore . They only make 4 bore shotguns. Also , when l had this gun in mind at first , l wanted a Smoothbore , because of the (flawed) idea that it could be a multi purpose piece , using solid slugs for dangerous game...