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That's the direction I'm heading mate... Going to buy a box, and if they shoot well, I'm going to give them a try... Russ

Whoa! That is an insane price! o_O I heard the A-Frames are good – but at that price they would want to be very, very, very good! Russ

Sarg, How would you rate the 480gn Woodleigh’s as far as killing power goes on buffalo, scrub bulls, etc… I have loaded up a few to get the rifle sorted and I’ve used them before, but I have been tossing up between them, or the Atomic 29 450gn copper hollow points. The Woodleigh’s are getting...

It’s always been a dream of mine too. Hopefully next year or the year after… I think it will be so cool to have one of Bob’s rifles back up there taking care of business…

Sarg, Thank you so much for your input... it is very much appreciated! I do have a question for you though... what projectiles did you load in the .458s? I have an old shooting magazine in my collection from many years ago, where Bob Penfold did a story on the original Barnes X bullet. The...

That's my rifle! :love: I just can't wait to use it in the field... As soon as my Leupold comes back from the factory, this will be my Sambar rifle until I can get to the NT to hunt buffalo. It just feels right to have another .458 in the safe again... Thank you so much for posting those pics...

The .458WM is an awesome cartridge. I've loaded everything from 300gn up to 550gn and I haven't had a problem with any of them. The 300s I loaded pretty softly but still got 2600fps, while the 550s were loaded pretty hot at just under 2100fps. Recoil from that last load was very heavy, and...

Hi Chris, I probably did say that... but in my defence I have had to sell a few because of family/financial/sickness reasons... That's the reason I sold my Winchester M70 .458 – and I LOVED that rifle. But life goes on... As far as .30 cal magnums go, I've owned; 4 x .300 WMs, 2 x .300WBYs 1...

Not this one… Just picked up a Weatherby MkV in .300wby at the same time as the .458… that’s not going anywhere either.

If you're thinking that hard about it – don't sell it. Whenever I've found myself in your situation and sold, I've always regretted it... Just my 0.02c Russ

Hey everyone, I thought I'd post a pic or 2 of my latest .458 Win Mag, and what's special is I thought I'd never own it. It was one of several rifles owned by the late Bob Penfold, who ran Hunt Australia, one of Australia's premier hunting safari companies. Bob was known as "the grandfather of...

I think along similar lines to you. (y) Russ

I did own a .257Wby mate, and I did get good speed and accuracy from it but sold it because it wasn't legal for all our deer species in Vic. I did like it though – pretty impressive ballistics – and apparently it was Roy Weatherby's personal favourite of the lot. But I do think that's why I...

Don't want to derail the thread, but I was told that when shooting tungsten shot, the recoil is so much higher than a regular shell. If so, can't imagine shooting a 3" or 3.5" shell loaded with tungsten buckshot would be much fun... Russ

Go the .257Wby. If you want a .25, go for THE .25 (y) Russ

You're a good man, Bob, and we really need to head out again... But I don't have a .338 anymore... but, just but, I just might be picking up something soon, mate... keep your eyes peeled! ;) Russ

C’mon Bob, l know the Whelen is your baby, but you seriously wouldn’t recommend the 35 Whelen over a .338WM to a new or inexperienced shooter wanting to hunt big game, would you? Components, rifles and factory ammo are all more plentiful for the .338 as compared to the Whelen. Remember, not...

I get supply and demand, but I feel Winchester made a mistake by dropping the .458WM and .375H&H from their line. These 2 cartridges are still popular as far as bigger cartridges go... Sure, it was nothing special, but it was the cheapest available (in my neck of the woods, anyway), and it was...

Looks great. (y) NEVER worry about what people think, mate; you've worked hard for that rifle, you bought it because you earned it, and now YOU do whatever YOU want to do to it. AND, if someone doesn't like it and it upsets them... well, that just makes it all the sweeter... It looks great...

After all that effort I would've just posted it anyway! :ROFLMAO: Russ

The .338WM is just an awesome cartridge, and choosing it is never a mistake for hunting big game. Russ

Recently I've been thinking that I wouldn't mind using a 8x57 in the field... It probably doesn't do anything a .30-06 doesn't do, but that's not a bad thing either... Russ

I have had the privileged opportunity to see and hold that M70, and I can attest it is an absolutely stunning rifle... Russ

That was fantastic. I really enjoyed reading that; congratulations on a great hunt. (y) And I have to admit, I always love reading about the .458 still taking care of business... Russ

I'm not really sure I fully get threads like this... people just seem to like drama... (n) I have no dog in this fight, and I don't have any opinion on Mark Sullivan one way or the other, but everyone knows how he goes about things. I live in Australia and haven't even hunted in Africa yet...

That's a very good point...

Just a quick mention, also not far from me is the Bertram Brass/bullet factory. These guys are super helpful in obtaining brass/projectiles that are otherwise hard to find, and they are extremely well priced. They sell no-frills, non-bonded softpoint projectiles that are great for deer or for...

The Woodleigh factory is only about an hour and a half to two hours away from where I live. I'm always happy to try and help people out if they are having trouble finding what they're looking for... Gotta look after each other... (y) Russ

I was always critical of the fact that when you buy a CZ (I've owned 2 in .458WM), they needed some work, but Farmboy, the custom rifle builder from NT Firearms Gove, said in reality, a lot of rifles need 'tweaking', and once done, the CZ is better than most. I always liked the set trigger; it...

I would just stick with the .45WM. I’ve owned 5 of them (hoping to be 6 real soon) and have never had a problem achieving the promised velocity with any of them. I have personally achieved 2100fps with the 550gn Woodleigh, 2150fps with the 500gn Woodleigh, 2150fps with the 480gn Woodleigh and...

That is a beautiful rifle in an awesome cartridge. (y) You should be proud mate, I would. Russ

If I didn't already own my 425 Express, I'd probably sell my .300WM and just use a .338WM for everything. It's that good... Russ

I agree... awesome cartridge. (y) Russ

I'm with you mate; 24"-26" is the go for a .338WM IMO... (y) Russ

Remember Bob, If @CoElkHunter were to load up his .33WM like you Whelen boys load up your .35s, it absolutely WOULD be doing something your Whelen's don't... Sorry mate, but case capacity and higher working pressure do mean something... and the .338 has the edge on both counts over the Whelen...

In my opinion the trend to smaller and smaller cartridges for big game is because of better bullet technology – and I have no problem with that, to an extent. I have a young son who's 12 and is about to start deer hunting with me, and the number 1 consideration for me when choosing a rifle was...

Hi. Just wanted to post something about my recent experience I had with a Redfield scope. It is a Redfield Revolution 2-7x33, and it is fitted to my 425 Express. A bit of a backstory... I originally had a Leupold VX-2 1-4x scope on my 425 and it was a really good, dependable scope. Clear...

Hi Bob, Yeah, that's why I chose them – they were the only .312" projectiles I could get. Was really after 180s but couldn't find any... but really happy with these; they shot great. (y) Russ

I really, really like the .416RM too (y)

I had a Winchester M70 Synthetic Matte in .338WM and that had a 26" barrel, and not once did I find it unwieldy or clumsy – even in the thick stuff while hunting Sambar. The only problem with my barrel was it was magnaported, and I still swear to this day that is the reason that it shot slower...

Hi. I've owned a couple of .338WMs and I really like the cartridge. Both of my .338s have been Winchester M70s, one CRF and one pushfeed, and both rifles performed flawlessly... Personally, I'd want a longer barrel than 19". 22" would be the minimum, but I would really prefer 24", but that's...

I thought exactly the same thing... Russ

I agree. I've never hunted Africa and have never met Mark Sullivan, but I've read enough on here to get an idea what my hunt would look like. And if I were happy with that, I'd hunt with him. If not, I wouldn't. But from what I've also gathered on here, he seems a nice enough guy – and I've...

I define a bad hunt probably in a few ways... When I've hunted bad... By that I mean when I haven't followed the rules I've set myself and haven't hunted the way I have planned. An example would be not setting a landmark every 50m or so and, when reaching that landmark, checking my compass to...

Glad I stumbled upon this thread; I'm planning a Fallow deer hunt and am using my .303 British loaded with the 150gn Interlock at a sedate 2450fps. After reading this I have every confidence it will do a great job. (y) Russ

The lighter magazine rifle... possibly a Lee Enfield .303 ?

Hey, Who has used standard bullets like Winchester Power-Point or Remington Core-Lokt in Africa? How did they go? Now c'mon guys, before the barrage of replies saying, "Why would someone skimp on a non-premium bullet when going to Africa?" Or "The bullet is the least expensive but most...

The Bertram factory is 90 min from my house. I'm always happy to help get some 404 Bertram brass to you if you have trouble finding an importer. (y) Russ

Awesome! Gotta love the .338 (y)

I've had a total of 3 cracked stocks on Zastavas – but they were all .458s. I'm not sure what cartridge sgt_zim:s was chambered for, but I can definitely attest that it can be a problem with bigger cals... Russ