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I have a non cabellas model. All of cabellas models were special order and s/n starts with cab. Mine is the later non cab model. Don't know about "x"

Oh man, that's though to swallow. On the other hand I love my sabatti more and more after reading this. I had the wood refinished, looks amazing. Still no issues, going strong. Only problem was it shoots peregrine bullets the best and these are hard to come by in the USA. The supplier finally...

Did you get your rifle back from butch? Have you shot it? I know sabatti gave you a hard time developing a load but I'm wondering how your new rifle is working out?

I would lightly tap the lever with soft mallet. Broken striker would not allow the rifle to break open. Very light tap, if that doesn't do it, go see a smith. I'm sorry it happened to you and I would be upset. On a separate note if this was a sabatti, Internet would collapse from negative comments.

I guess the first question would be why over/under and not side by side?

That's understandable however my experience has been completely different. I have been in touch with the owner throughout the whole process and we spent a lot of time chatting about hunting and rifles. When I decided to upgrade to ejectors, they picked up the shipping cost. Very cool. As soon as...

I have shot a ton of 450 and 500 grain tsx with h4831, v100 hybrid, and i did not like regulation out of my double. I tried 450 tsx with reloader 17 and that did not shoot well either. So I stopped using tsx with my double. 90 grains of h4831 gave me 2120fps with 500 tsx. I shot them anywhere...

Alright!!!! Congrats

I would also like to add the following. Advice based on my experience. In no way I would consider myself an expert so please don't take it as such. I am not looking to prove anyone wrong or get into debates, this is just my experience. And I'm just some guy on the Internet with no credibility so...

Another range session. This gun shoots like a laser but only with peregrine bullets. Barnes shoot ok 3-4 inch spread so in an emergency I would use them. I upped the powder load to 90 and am averaging 2200fps. I shot 8 rounds into 1 inch. I consider it done. I will say that driving to the range...

Yes, unfortunately, USA supplier is all out. I bought the last 2 boxes of 480 solids. This is the best bullet I have ever used and I bought some for my 45/70. Far superior to Barnes in the USA. Barnes has a very large hollow point so is much longer. It also lacks the relief cuts of peregrine so...

Here are the suspects. Barnes 450/500 tsx Peregrine 480, hornady 480dgs and Barnes 45/70 400.

Those 4 shots actually measure less than 1 inch apart. The other holes are Barnes tsx, which for the life of me I can not get to shoot well.

Another update. 180 rounds down the pipe. Slow powder causing groups to cross. I'm being meticulous and trying all kinds of bullets, powders etc. I have switched over to reloader 17 and grouping is 1.5 inch at 60 yards. But, I can not tell if the rounds are crossing. One shot will cross, another...

Another update. I have approximately 160 rounds down the barrel. I really enjoy shooting it. It is breaking in nicely and opens closes really nicely now. I don't have any primer drag marks as other member reported and it opens super nice, mine is ejector so I bring it close in to eject, the...

Quick update. I am not concerenced about the front sight. I spoke to wholesale hunter and they will ship me a front sight in any size I need but advised to develop a load and use that height. I shot 500 Barnes and they crossed. As I added powder they are coming in together BUT My chrono is not...

Well this is embarrassing. ... I have been shouldering the rifle to develop mechanics like a shotgun, and asked myself "why am I lining up the brass forward dot deep down into the v notch rear sight when the tops are not lining up? And then it hit me, I was aiming height wise all wrong!!! Brass...

Regular brass dot.

Come to think off it, it is probably zeroed, for me, at 200 yards. I did shot at 200 and hit dead on but shot over 100. 200 is hard to see so I just assumed a lucky shot. I just glanced at "shooting the British double" and Graeme used a lead sled and said it did not affect regulation so,,,,,,

I respectfully disagree. I won't be using a lead sled as even if the group comes to the ceneter, I will be hunting with this rifle and shooting off hand so that is all that matters. When I shot at the target I had the front hand supported by a stand but I still call that off hand. I guess it was...

That is really not an issue as all it takes is a talker front sight but yes, ideally should have been closer to the bullseye. I would have been over the top if that was the case. I wonder if the height has anything to do with the way Sabatti regulates these and that is in a lead sled v me...

Well I just took the action apart to examine and tweek if needed. First advice, don't do it. Springs are a nightmare to compress. I had to make tooling to compress them. One almost flew into hyperspace but I caught it. Action is massive and springs are top notch. I don't think I will ever mess...

Hello, I purchased a new production Sabatti in 450NE. I ready every single piece of information I could find on these rifles and decided to go for it. I spent a lot of time in talks with whosalehunter and IFG (importer) and felt comfortable. I purchased ejector model and 5 days later it showed...

Lots of good info, yes we agree with your statements so no you did not start a crap fest. That info will help anyone that is getting into double rifles not rush off and think the rifle is crap and not shooting well. If the left barrel is shooting 1.5 inch groups at 50 and so is the right, then...

Thank you for good info. I am one of the people that is fascinated by all aspects of shooting, so the physics of how and why intrigue me. Great info

To answer your question, my double is 2 inches at the breech and about 1.5 at the muzzle. My understanding is that the barrels are soldered flat parallel at the mono block so the case is on the face, then the barrels are squeezed together to converge. This is a common way to make doubles...

If the muzzle barrel distance is one inch and rifle shoots one inch at 50, then we are good to Infiniti? But 99.9% chance is a double will converge or spread at a distance so it is a mute point. It would be really really hard to make a double shoot parallel. It might be 200 yards, or a 1000 but...

It would be interesting to use trigonometry and calculate muzzle movement needed to shift the poi at 100 yards....

Not to get into a pissing contest but although you are correct, this is a proven concept and all manufacturers account for it. The amount of muzzle movement is extremely small so the difference in shooters is negligible to achieve the desired effect. Yes all shooter will hit a slightly different...

I would love to see the brass that has a weak spot if possible. I also do not understand the barrel off face issue. Thanks

That might be true if the rifle was locked in and not allowed to recoil. As the bullet starts to travel down the barrel, muzzle will rise and move to the side being fired so it is very possible to get a double to shoot parallel. That is why in shooting consistency in holding the rifle is the key

Haha, yes minute of elephant. Should be moa, damn spellcheck,,,

I agree,,,it kills me when guys compare bolt action accuracy to a double. "My Xxx bolt action shoots 1" moe so I would never buy a double that shoots 4". These people don't understand that a double is 2 rifles, independent (sort off) of each other. Yet most of these guys can't shoot a bolt...

By no means I would consider myself an expert but I think elevation between barrels has more to do with shooting technique than regulation. Heavy recoiling guns are very touchy to get to shoot and replicate factory regulation so I would consider those targets more than acceptable. I very well...

Man, what bad luck you have. I have been browsing this forum for a while but after I read this, I had to join! Wow, first thank you for all of your posts, I read all of them and they have been very helpful. I read your Sabatti report with great interest and am sorry it did not work out for you...