Any Dangerous Game Slug Hunters? (Incl. Bear)

[SAFARIKIDD]

I always wanted to hunt a Brown Bear (still may #3 with one?) with my custom Rifled Browning ABolt 18" Rifled or Benelli SBE 18" Rifled Barrel ,Browning Silver Rifled 18" or a 18" Double w/2 Rifled Carlsons Tubes?
I have info from the Linebaugh seminar on these 2 special slugs! (See the photo of the results)
880grs(1441fps) and 1043grs (1080fps) both Hard Cast and huge meplats..see photo of each.
I feel they could drop Bear, Bison and Cape Buffalo too
I have not tested them myself yet..the last photo is my gunsmith Mike who builds my Big Bores and cut the barrels on the ones shown here..he did test a few as you can swe quite impressive!....Thoughts?

 

[Inline6]

That Browning looks pretty sweet!

 

[AZDAVE]

I have a 20bore double rifle that I need to get out on a hunt.

 

[matt85]

The 880gr load would be the most promising, the other load is much too slow. Not really sure how well it would do on buffalo or if it is even legal to hunt a cape buffalo with a shotgun.

-matt

 

[D.latib]

Lately I have been thinking .... Apart from the legal aspect , will a slug take down a buffalo ?

 

[Deleted member 46122]

I always wanted to hunt a Brown Bear (still may #3 with one?) with my custom Rifled Browning ABolt 18" Rifled or Benelli SBE 18" Rifled Barrel ,Browning Silver Rifled 18" or a 18" Double w/2 Rifled Carlsons Tubes?
I have info from the Linebaugh seminar on these 2 special slugs! (See the photo of the results)
880grs(1441fps) and 1043grs (1080fps) both Hard Cast and huge meplats..see photo of each.
I feel they could drop Bear, Bison and Cape Buffalo too
I have not tested them myself yet..the last photo is my gunsmith Mike who builds my Big Bores and cut the barrels on the ones shown here..he did test a few as you can swe quite

I like the Brenneke Black Magic

 

[matt85]

Lately I have been thinking .... Apart from the legal aspect , will a slug take down a buffalo ?

I would think it would perform much like the old black powder guns. The 8 bore was pretty popular for dangerous game. The 8 bore fired a 1050gr-1250gr (depending on maker) slug at around 1500fps.

The above 880gr at 1440fps 12g load is sort of similar in sectional density and speed to the 8 bore. So at least in theory it should work... personally I dont think Id try it.

-matt

 

[Deleted member 46122]

Most here have heard my story about taking the Brown Bear while on duty as a Police Officer in Haines Alaska.
Documented DLP shoot.
Over 9 feet, one round in the neck from about 30 feet. Dropped in his tracks.
That said, I would not recommend hunting brown bear with any slug.

 

[Deleted member 46122]

I used a Scatter Gun Technologies Remington 870 and Brenneke Black Magic

 

[Red Leg]

Paradox Guns were created at the turn of the last century and typically fired a 740 gr lead bullet or 1/8 ounce shot charge. This is my William Evans, built before the First World War. As I have noted in previous posts I once rolled a pair of warthogs for leopard bait and created a respectable pile of sand grouse at the same waterhole in Namibia one afternoon. They were used in both Africa and the Raj as all purpose guns by serving British officers. Better suited to dropping lions and tigers, they also accounted for lots of buffalo.

In the last few years, Tony Makris took several with his paradox guns and Ross Seyfried's loads including a bull with his 20 bore Westley Richards Fauneta. No one should consider those exploits as a recommendation for how to use the gun, but taking on dangerous game with bore "slugs" is over a hundred years old.

I should note, the 6 inches of rifling in this gun produces sub 3-inch four-shot LxR/LxR groups at 100 yards and lovely light modified patterns of no. 6 shot.

 

[IvW]

Poor mans double Brno 12ga 24 inch barrels sight and ghost ring fitted original Brenneke slugs is my leopard follow up rifle.....
Used it on many pg and bushpigs as well....

 

[Justin.]

@Red Leg The wood on that is just phenomenal! What a beautiful piece of craftsmanship to get to enjoy in the field!

 

[IvW]

Poor Man's Double Rifle

IvW, that was a fantastic post. You use a 2 3/4 inch round. I wonder what that would be like in a 3 1/2 inch. I bet it would one helluva effective machine. Only problem for me is that the 12ga 2 3/4 inch is the "African" standard shot shell size. Finding a 3 1/2 inch in the old Brno side lock...

www.africahunting.com

 

[IvW]

Paradox Guns were created at the turn of the last century and typically fired a 740 gr lead bullet or 1/8 ounce shot charge. This is my William Evans, built before the First World War. As I have noted in previous posts I once rolled a pair of warthogs for leopard bait and created a respectable pile of sand grouse at the same waterhole in Namibia one afternoon. They were used in both Africa and the Raj as all purpose guns by serving British officers. Better suited to dropping lions and tigers, they also accounted for lots of buffalo.

In the last few years, Tony Makris took several with his paradox guns and Ross Seyfried's loads including a bull with his 20 bore Westley Richards Fauneta. No one should consider those exploits as a recommendation for how to use the gun, but taking on dangerous game with bore "slugs" is over a hundred years old.

I should note, the 6 inches of rifling in this gun produces sub 3-inch four-shot LxR/LxR groups at 100 yards and lovely light modified patterns of no. 6 shot.

Would a rifled choke in a O/U combination 12ga/9.3×74R be of any use to convert it to a Paradox of sorts?

 

[Red Leg]

Would a rifled choke in a O/U combination 12ga/9.3×74R be of any use to convert it to a Paradox of sorts?

Don't know why not. Obviously, regulation would be the tricky hurdle.

 

[VertigoBE]

Paradox Guns were created at the turn of the last century and typically fired a 740 gr lead bullet or 1/8 ounce shot charge. This is my William Evans, built before the First World War. As I have noted in previous posts I once rolled a pair of warthogs for leopard bait and created a respectable pile of sand grouse at the same waterhole in Namibia one afternoon. They were used in both Africa and the Raj as all purpose guns by serving British officers. Better suited to dropping lions and tigers, they also accounted for lots of buffalo.

In the last few years, Tony Makris took several with his paradox guns and Ross Seyfried's loads including a bull with his 20 bore Westley Richards Fauneta. No one should consider those exploits as a recommendation for how to use the gun, but taking on dangerous game with bore "slugs" is over a hundred years old.

I should note, the 6 inches of rifling in this gun produces sub 3-inch four-shot LxR/LxR groups at 100 yards and lovely light modified patterns of no. 6 shot.

lovely, @Red Leg ! Gorgeous lookin gun

 

[Hunter-Habib]

An original R.B Rodda & Co. 12 Gauge ( 2.5 “ chambers ) back action hammer “ Improved Paragon “ ball & shot gun and the original Manton Contractile Ball shells.

This combination used to be extremely popular as a backup weapon for tiger hunters during the British colonial era. Their gun bearer would usually carry it while the hunter had a .450/400 Nitro Express in his hands.

 

[dougfinn]

I used to take my kids and their cousins out slug hunting with salt shakers . . . oh that kind of slug. Never mind.

 

[colorado]

Pictures! We want shoulder pictures, we know you took some Here's mine from my first time out with my 500 Jeffery doing load development four loads ranging from a 570g TSX at 2100 fps to 2510 fps. Twenty four shots in total just wearing a T-shirt. Started feeling real pain about the 18th round, got real for the last six shots. And yes I was holding the rifle correctly ...

 

[IvW]

Not sure how you get brused like that where the but should be is nothing.....