.404 JEFFERY - A Professional Hunter point of view

Hmmmmmm, can get a brand spanking CZ550 .416 Rigby for $2k, but this has more appeal and heritage, decisions.....

no decisions at all, its a nice looking rifle most likely will hold its value better, and the main thing is you will stop stressing docman out by you maybe missing out on buying it, and he will then be happy and have a new .404 friend :p:biggrin2:
 
"When a client shows up in camp with a .375 Holland & Holland, you immediately know that have a practical and able chap as a customer, a wise and knowledgeable hunter who will listen to reason.

When a client shows up in camp with a .458 Win Mag, you know that most likely the only experience the hunter has had is reading the pages of Outdoor Life magazine, probably 30-year-old editions.

When a client shows up in camp with a Remington or Weatherby in any caliber, you know the hunter's experience probably does not extend past the clerk at the gun counter.

When a client arrives with a double rifle, you know you have an elitist for a customer, much like the guy coming down the charter-boat dock at the marina carrying a fly rod, and you approach him with caution.

When a client shows up with a .416 Rigby, you know you have someone who has studied and respects the rich history and traditions of the sport of dangerous-game hunting.

But when a client shows up in camp with a .404 Jeffery, you know this is someone who cares enough about said history and traditions to go to the immense trouble of obtaining and loading a rifle long sacrificed to the gods of mass production and commercialism. You take a liking to this guy immediately."

The 400 Jeffery is just a 500 Jeffery waiting to grow up ... :)

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Funny I should stumble across this thread, I'm a CRF adherent, and if it doesn't have blued steel and walnut furniture, I'm sure it's not one of mine. My biggest dilemma at the moment is choosing between a 416 Rigby and a 404 Jeffery. The action WILL be a 98 Mauser regardless of the rest. I feel though that putting a scope on it would bugger the whole thing.
JD
 
I plan on a 404 Jeff from a Mod 98 this winter, as far as all the original Posts I love anything with Wood and Bolt regardless of Make and caliber but you guys are starting to give me a Complex I own a Brand X Whitworth Zastava in 375 and one of those Nasty Weatherbys in 257 both on the extreme edge of Reliability and Accuracy
 
Have a Dakota African 404 Jeff. Hand load with Woodleigh 400 grain softs and solids with same point of impact. 81 grains of reloader 17 ( 2156 fps, SD 6). This rifle, and load, to me, speak of Africa. I am soon to leave for a problem control Lion hunt in Namibia, just out of Estoshia National Park, and this is my weapon of choice. Ninth safari, and have embraced the tradition. To continue with tradition have added a 275 Rigby to the arsenal. Doc 404 just states the natural progression of an African hunting affectionato, and the passion for the past, but living for the future. Embrace the history, live the passion.
 
Doc you posted this question a long time ago. Only stumbled onto this now. I would like to post a question to the Clients. What is your thoughts when you arrive and see what your PH will be using to back you up?
 
well the AHR .404 i bought due to a person on here putting their website up when he was looking to have his rifle upgraded ,and i looked at the for sale section..............arrived in lusaka just before i left, so the licence is in and i will all being well pick it up when i am back . only prob is the bloke who owns the gunshop has got himself a .404 just now as well and loves it, and he grabbed the last 2 boxes of ammo he had...................hopefully the next ammo order will have some .404 in or we are both stuffed!!!! i put a photo of it up elsewhere but here it is again. very pleased with it and it fits me perfectly .
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Beauty !
 
Doc you posted this question a long time ago. Only stumbled onto this now. I would like to post a question to the Clients. What is your thoughts when you arrive and see what your PH will be using to back you up?

Hi Bernard de Lang,

After a bit of informal target shooting with a PH's .458 Express 3", built on a CZ 550 action and slightly modified factory "Bavarian" style stock, I returned home to have one built for myself to the same specifications, except that mine is a .458 Lott (ballistic twins, unless using maximum charges, which I am not interested in whatsoever).
I am quite fond of this rifle but, I never would have been interested in it had that PH not offered to let me fire the one he had a Gunsmith in South Africa build up for him.

Cheers,
Velo Dog.
 
That is a beautiful piece of wood, thanks for posting a pic
 
well the AHR .404 i bought due to a person on here putting their website up when he was looking to have his rifle upgraded ,and i looked at the for sale section..............arrived in lusaka just before i left, so the licence is in and i will all being well pick it up when i am back . only prob is the bloke who owns the gunshop has got himself a .404 just now as well and loves it, and he grabbed the last 2 boxes of ammo he had...................hopefully the next ammo order will have some .404 in or we are both stuffed!!!! i put a photo of it up elsewhere but here it is again. very pleased with it and it fits me perfectly .
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That is a gorgeous piece of wood and combined with the great 404 Jeffery cartridge is a superb package.
 
"When a client shows up in camp with a .375 Holland & Holland, you immediately know that have a practical and able chap as a customer, a wise and knowledgeable hunter who will listen to reason.

When a client shows up in camp with a .458 Win Mag, you know that most likely the only experience the hunter has had is reading the pages of Outdoor Life magazine, probably 30-year-old editions.

When a client shows up in camp with a Remington or Weatherby in any caliber, you know the hunter's experience probably does not extend past the clerk at the gun counter.

When a client arrives with a double rifle, you know you have an elitist for a customer, much like the guy coming down the charter-boat dock at the marina carrying a fly rod, and you approach him with caution.

When a client shows up with a .416 Rigby, you know you have someone who has studied and respects the rich history and traditions of the sport of dangerous-game hunting.

But when a client shows up in camp with a .404 Jeffery, you know this is someone who cares enough about said history and traditions to go to the immense trouble of obtaining and loading a rifle long sacrificed to the gods of mass production and commercialism. You take a liking to this guy immediately."
I think something like that is DOC.
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